Potentially caught doing 94-96 on M25 |
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Helping the motorist get justice
Potentially caught doing 94-96 on M25 |
 Mon, 4 Aug 2014 - 10:47
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Hi all,
Really sorry to be that guy that just goes onto a forum when he needs something but I'm panicking currently! I was travelling on the M25 at around 4AM doing around 94-96 mph. As I passed one of the large gantry signs an almighty couple of flashes appeared from behind. They lit up so bright. I was on my way to the airport for a flight and seeing as the roads were almost empty I decided to make up some time. It was a completely stupid decision and to be honest i rarely go over 80. One stupid moment of judgement has now left me in a potentially bad situation. What do you guys think the odds of me being caught are and the potential punishments? Just as a mention there were no lines on the road so I guess it's a radar? A bit of background about me, I've had my licence for 5.5 years with no penalties previously. I would really appreciate some advice. Many thanks, Green fire |
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Mon, 4 Aug 2014 - 10:53
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 Member Group: Members Posts: 41,580 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
As long as your measured speed (it will be a bit lower than your speedo) does not exceed 95 then you should be able to dispose of the matter with a 3 point / £100 fixed penalty. Otherwise it will be a court summons.
Anyway, it sounds almost certain you were caught so they have 14 days to serve the 1st NIP. -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Mon, 4 Aug 2014 - 13:47
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 4 Aug 2014 Member No.: 72,302 |
Hi,
Many thanks for the reply. So I guess it's time to face reality and accept that I did get caught! In your experience do people usually get 3 points for this sort of offence? I would be more than happy with a FPN in this instance. Thanks, Green fire |
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Mon, 4 Aug 2014 - 13:50
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Member Group: Members Posts: 3,226 Joined: 3 Sep 2007 Member No.: 13,453 |
Yup, for that speed 3 points and £100 is likely.
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Mon, 4 Aug 2014 - 14:35
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Member Group: Members Posts: 1,387 Joined: 11 Mar 2007 Member No.: 11,089 |
I hate to be sanguine about this, but if/when you do get some "details" it would be interesting to know what type of camera fired off at you...HADECS2 (the old fashoned gantry cameras mounted one for each lane) or HADECS3 (side mounted on the gantry) or failing that whereabouts on the M25 you were.
Edit to add, you noted there were no markings on the road, so it might be a HADECS3. This will be of interest as they are a new camera type and I can't recall anyone posting about being done by one on here. I could be wrong though. This post has been edited by nomadros: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 - 14:39 |
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Mon, 4 Aug 2014 - 14:48
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 4 Aug 2014 Member No.: 72,302 |
Hi,
Thanks again for the info guys. Hope it is just 3 points! The camera was just past the A10 junction going anti clockwise. Junction 25 I believe or near there anyway. Thanks, Green fire. |
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Mon, 4 Aug 2014 - 17:20
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 4 Aug 2014 Member No.: 72,302 |
Hi guys,
So I've done some digging around google and on Piston Heads it looks like others have seem the cameras around J25 flash also. I believe these are the new HADESCS3's. Thanks, Green fire |
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Wed, 6 Aug 2014 - 14:47
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 4 Aug 2014 Member No.: 72,302 |
Hi guys,
Sorry to bump this. I just wanted to know if you had any ideas on if anyone had been caught by the new HADESC cameras? Whilst I fully appreciate that I was speeding and it was a stupid thing to do I really don't want to be in a position where my licence is the on the line! I know a few people have said about 3 points and £100 fine which I would welcome with open arms but the new cameras have put a lot of doubt in my mind whether I will get that or not. Many thanks, Green fire |
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Wed, 6 Aug 2014 - 14:54
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13,735 Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Member No.: 14,720 |
Whether anyone else has or has not been caught won't change your situation.
you'll just have to wait and see what arrives in the post. 14 days if you're the RK. -------------------- |
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Wed, 6 Aug 2014 - 14:56
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QUOTE (Greenfire @ Wed, 6 Aug 2014 - 15:47)  Hi guys, Sorry to bump this. I just wanted to know if you had any ideas on if anyone had been caught by the new HADESC cameras? Whilst I fully appreciate that I was speeding and it was a stupid thing to do I really don't want to be in a position where my licence is the on the line! I know a few people have said about 3 points and £100 fine which I would welcome with open arms but the new cameras have put a lot of doubt in my mind whether I will get that or not. Many thanks, Green fire Why should the type of device used make any difference ..surely it is the limit in force and the speed you were doing that matters? |
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Wed, 6 Aug 2014 - 15:02
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,580 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
There could be a difference between an average-speed and a single measurement system. I suspect it's the latter so the all important speed is around the 90+ mark.
-------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Wed, 6 Aug 2014 - 17:03
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QUOTE (Greenfire @ Wed, 6 Aug 2014 - 15:47) Sorry to bump this. So don't then? -------------------- Moderator
Any comments made do not constitute legal advice and should not be relied upon. No lawyer/client relationship should be assumed nor should any duty of care be owed. |
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Wed, 6 Aug 2014 - 21:10
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 4 Aug 2014 Member No.: 72,302 |
QUOTE (southpaw82 @ Wed, 6 Aug 2014 - 18:03) QUOTE (Greenfire @ Wed, 6 Aug 2014 - 15:47) Sorry to bump this. So don't then? Wow you're a ****. Everyone else has been so helpful and friendly. You miserable ****. |
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Wed, 6 Aug 2014 - 21:18
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Member Group: Members Posts: 2,189 Joined: 8 Feb 2011 From: Gloucestershire Member No.: 44,109 |
Bye bye :-)
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Wed, 6 Aug 2014 - 21:20
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13,735 Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Member No.: 14,720 |
QUOTE (Greenfire @ Wed, 6 Aug 2014 - 22:10) QUOTE (southpaw82 @ Wed, 6 Aug 2014 - 18:03) QUOTE (Greenfire @ Wed, 6 Aug 2014 - 15:47) Sorry to bump this. So don't then? Wow you're a ****. Everyone else has been so helpful and friendly. You miserable ****. You seem to have not considered those that contribute here do so in their own, unpaid time. Bumping a thread that doesn't even involve a live case is totally unnecessary. And as i said whether other people have been caught has nowt to do with whether you have been, so essentially after your initial query was answered, you're simply wasting everyone elses time. -------------------- |
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Wed, 6 Aug 2014 - 21:26
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Member Group: Members Posts: 33,634 Joined: 2 Apr 2008 From: Not in the UK Member No.: 18,483 |
I thought you might have taken the hint the first time I deleted your "bump" post. Apparently not.
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