Britannia Parking |
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Fri, 23 Feb 2018 - 19:54
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 23 Feb 2018 Member No.: 96,730 |
Hi. It’s been a while since I was last on here, so am just wondering if anything has changed much.
A friend of mine has today received a NTK in the post from Britannia Parking. Date of notice is 21st Feb and date of contravention 30th Jan. Am I correct in assuming that as this is more than 14 days, they have not complied with the NTK rules set out in POFA? And therefore my friend should send a letter of appeal, as RK, based purely on their failure to comply? Or should my friend add something different/extra to the letter of appeal? Any advice would be greatly appreciated! |
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Fri, 23 Feb 2018 - 20:14
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,503 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
Indeed, that means they can only pursue the driver. I presume the NtK doesn't claim otherwise?
An 'appeal' that they've failed to comply and that the keeper has no liability. (If they reject then they have to give a POPLA code where they will uphold the appeal) -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Fri, 23 Feb 2018 - 20:48
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 23 Feb 2018 Member No.: 96,730 |
Thank you!
I only have a copy of the front of the NTK at the moment, but having checked that, it says... “Please be advised that the driver of the motor vehicle is required to pay this parking charge in full. As we do not know the drivers name or current address, and if you were not the driver of the vehicle at the time, you should tell us the name and current postal address of the driver and pass this notice to them for payment. If you were the driver at the time of the event you are required to pay or appeal the parking charge.” So yes, they are pursuing the driver. |
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Fri, 23 Feb 2018 - 20:53
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,503 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
So yes, they are pursuing the driver. Indeed, but they've written to the keeper and admit they have not complied with PoFA to pursue the keeper if they do not know or will not reveal the driver... So, the initial appeal (as the keeper) tells them this. -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Fri, 23 Feb 2018 - 21:07
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 23 Feb 2018 Member No.: 96,730 |
Thank you. I would have very likely missed that point. I learnt from my own mistake a few years back, appealing as the driver and after subsequently discovering these forums, realising that wasn’t the best approach!
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Fri, 23 Feb 2018 - 23:27
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 23 Feb 2018 Member No.: 96,730 |
So is something like this ok as an initial appeal? Or does it need anything else?
Ticket number: XXXXXX Vehicle registration number: XXXXXXX On 21st February 2018 you issued a Parking Charge Notice, to me, as the Registered Keeper. There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. Your Notice to Keeper is not compliant with Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. Therefore you are unable to pursue me as the keeper. You must therefore cancel the charge, or offer me a POPLA code. |
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Mon, 26 Feb 2018 - 10:42
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 23 Feb 2018 Member No.: 96,730 |
I do now have copies of the front and reverse of the PCN my friend received. Presumably I should just advise my friend to go with an appeal along the lines of the wording in my previous post?
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Mon, 26 Feb 2018 - 12:16
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17,088 Joined: 8 Mar 2013 Member No.: 60,457 |
And there is no mention of POFA either on the front or the back and no mention of keeper liability?
I have received your Notice to Keeper No. xxxx regarding vehicle XXXXX You have failed to comply with the requirements of Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, namely, but not limited to, the statements that must be included in 9 (2). You cannot, therefore, hold me, the keeper, liable for the actions of the driver at the time. There is no legal requirement for me to identify the driver, and I will not be doing so. I do not expect to hear from you again about this matter, other than to confirm that no further action will be taken. Don't bother asking for the POPLA code, if the reject they know they have to issue a POLA code. Failure to do so means that you complain to the BPA about them failing to follow the Code of Practise, to the detriment of the consumer. This post has been edited by ostell: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 - 12:19 |
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Mon, 26 Feb 2018 - 18:43
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 23 Feb 2018 Member No.: 96,730 |
Thank you for the amended wording - that looks better!
Yes, absolutely no mention of POFA or keeper liability. |
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