PCN at High Point Village |
PCN at High Point Village |
Sun, 9 Jun 2019 - 12:43
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Member Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 9 Jun 2019 Member No.: 104,220 |
Hi guys.
I have received a PCN for parking at High Point Village. They did not provided full address and it took me a while to figure out where they are talking about. As far as I know I went to pick up passengers at Station Approach who were already waiting for me and whole thing done <30 sec. I have never been at High Point Village. I am a minicab driver and as far as I know I am allowed to pick up passengers at double yellow lines. I have seen some post here about that place. I want to appeal. As my English might not be good enough could somebody please help me with the wording? I appreciate. |
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Sun, 9 Jun 2019 - 13:23
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Member Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 9 Jun 2019 Member No.: 104,220 |
I need some urgent help please.
Thanks |
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Sun, 9 Jun 2019 - 22:30
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Member Group: Members Posts: 58 Joined: 16 Jul 2015 Member No.: 78,370 |
If you look at this picture you will see that the double yellow lines have hatches, which normally means no loading or unloading. So I would imagjne they have got you on camera.
Is the parking notice from the council or from a private parking company? You need to give more detail if you want a response. https://www.google.com/search?q=station+app...&bih=800#im This post has been edited by ggreg: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 - 21:49 |
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Sun, 9 Jun 2019 - 23:12
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Member Group: Members Posts: 4,126 Joined: 31 Jan 2018 Member No.: 96,238 |
It's Parking Control Management UK Ltd
This is a honeypot that's very familiar on this forum Building works at the station have left this road as the only access There's an inconspicuous brown sign saying Private Road to the right of the entrance to Station Approach The road markings with the same information are cunningly painted where they're hidden from the driver's view by the speed bump The only restriction signs are on the right by the bays - very high and tiny print There are no signs at all on the left hand side The PCM operative lurks in the archway to High Point Village and photographs vehicles dropping off for the station I would make a simple appeal Dear Sir Ref **** I am challenging this Parking Notice Stopping a vehicle for boarding and alighting is an exemption to yellow lines Furthermore, the signs at the location do not comply with the IPC Code of Practice The Notice must be cancelled Yours Faithfully This will be rejected but it will be enough to show a court that you acted reasonably and didn't ignore the Notice File but ignore any further letters other than a Letter Before Claim PCM does issue claims for this location but loses them when this Forum provides the defence |
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Tue, 11 Jun 2019 - 14:33
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Member Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 9 Jun 2019 Member No.: 104,220 |
Here is my original PCN. I have appealed yesterday.
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Tue, 11 Jun 2019 - 15:42
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17,088 Joined: 8 Mar 2013 Member No.: 60,457 |
Can't read it
Did you see the thread today that mentioned a win at that location? Edit: http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=125862 This post has been edited by ostell: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 - 15:44 |
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Tue, 11 Jun 2019 - 22:11
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Member Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 9 Jun 2019 Member No.: 104,220 |
New scan.
This post has been edited by carcaptain: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 - 13:30 |
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Wed, 12 Jun 2019 - 08:48
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17,088 Joined: 8 Mar 2013 Member No.: 60,457 |
Take down and put up again after redacting things like VRM and PCN Number.
They have failed to specify 9 (2) (f) correctly They have failed to give a period of parking 9 (2) (a) The driver was loading/unloading which is not parking. I hope that you can get some good info from the other thread I linked to. |
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Wed, 12 Jun 2019 - 09:19
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Member Group: Members Posts: 4,126 Joined: 31 Jan 2018 Member No.: 96,238 |
I took a set of pictures that have been used successfully in a number of defences for High Point Village
There are no signs at all on that side of the road As I predicted, the operative was lurking in the archway when he took those pictures |
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Wed, 12 Jun 2019 - 15:12
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Member Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 9 Jun 2019 Member No.: 104,220 |
Take down and put up again after redacting things like VRM and PCN Number. They have failed to specify 9 (2) (f) correctly They have failed to give a period of parking 9 (2) (a) The driver was loading/unloading which is not parking. I hope that you can get some good info from the other thread I linked to. Hi. Thank you for your comments. Yes, I have had a look at that post. What are you referring to by 9(2)(f) and 9(2)(a)? Sorry I am new. Is there a ready draft for defense? I took a set of pictures that have been used successfully in a number of defences for High Point Village There are no signs at all on that side of the road As I predicted, the operative was lurking in the archway when he took those pictures Hi Redivi, May I have those pictures please? I don't normally go to that area. During past 6 years I went there once and that happened. |
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Wed, 12 Jun 2019 - 16:03
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17,088 Joined: 8 Mar 2013 Member No.: 60,457 |
Sections of paragraph 9 of Schedule4 of The Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. If they don't comply they cannot hold the keeper liable for the actions of the driver
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Sat, 15 Jun 2019 - 20:08
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Member Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 9 Jun 2019 Member No.: 104,220 |
Hi,
I have received the rejection from pcm as expected and they did not answered to any my questions. Shall I tell them that I don't appeal to IAS because of conflict of interest or just ignore them? Here is their response. Redivi, You said you have some picture of the High Point Village. Could you post them please? I appreciate your guidance. |
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Sat, 15 Jun 2019 - 21:39
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Member Group: Members Posts: 10,695 Joined: 23 Apr 2004 From: Not in the UK Member No.: 1,131 |
Do not appeal to the IAS.
You will have to sit through the barrage of debt collector letters and await a properly formatted Letter before Claim. |
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Sun, 16 Jun 2019 - 11:48
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Member Group: Members Posts: 8,582 Joined: 9 Feb 2006 Member No.: 4,813 |
Can't remember the case details but there is case law, or at least a settled case, where the judge made it clear that stopping is not parking
Somewhere on the Cornwall or Devon coast I think -------------------- The Asda shopping trolley parking ticket enthusiast
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Mon, 17 Jun 2019 - 04:25
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Member Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 9 Jun 2019 Member No.: 104,220 |
I have just found this image of the sign at the location from internet.
It says "No Grace period applies". Can any parking company say that based on IPC CoP? |
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Mon, 17 Jun 2019 - 08:26
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Member Group: Members Posts: 8,582 Joined: 9 Feb 2006 Member No.: 4,813 |
Apart from the Code of
Contract law. You can't agree to any contractual terms without reading them. If the only place you can read them is on a sign which is atop a pole that has lots of words on, then you need to stop to actually read them anyway. -------------------- The Asda shopping trolley parking ticket enthusiast
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Thu, 5 Sep 2019 - 12:39
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Member Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 9 Jun 2019 Member No.: 104,220 |
I have received two letters from "TRACE recovery" before which told me the fine increased to £160 and I ignored them.
Now I received a letter from "TRACE legal dep" which says I have to pay it or lots of legal threat, CCJ and so on. Shall I also ignore this? Thanks |
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Thu, 5 Sep 2019 - 14:13
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Member Group: Members Posts: 9,985 Joined: 20 Aug 2008 Member No.: 21,992 |
Yes.
What you're looking for is a Letter Before Claim/Action that comes from the parking company itself, or a representative firm of solicitors. Some debt collectors send good imitations on solicitor headed paper, but they are distinguishable by the fact that they ask you to pay the debt collector to prevent it proceeding. -------------------- Sometimes I use big words I don't understand in an effort to make myself sound more photosynthesis.
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