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czaka1
post Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 19:47
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Hi

Just received this 3 letters in one envelope to enforce PCN for my car
Letters are from enforcement agents as Council couldn't deliver to my new address because after moving house I didn't change my address in dvla

is this lost case or something can be done to reduce pain ?\
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post Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 20:29
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Needs to be in the council forum. Hit '! Report' and ask a moderator to move the thread.


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request

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post Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 21:05
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You need to post all dates for each PCN and the date you moved, and also what the PCNs are for and where.

Post each notice too - use a site such as https://imgbb.com for pics and post the BBCode embed links.

have you changed the V5C address?

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post Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 21:34
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Thanks for reply

Don't know exact PCN dates yet as couldn't reach traffic enforcement
my wife thinks they will be for driving the bus line in January in Colchester high street

The date I move home was 30.04.2018

No, I didn't change my V5C address yet

this are notices








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post Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 22:01
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QUOTE (czaka1 @ Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 22:34) *
Don't know exact PCN dates yet as couldn't reach traffic enforcement
my wife thinks they will be for driving the bus line in January in Colchester high street

The amounts match a bus lane.

Can you see any dates, using the references, on the Council website?


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post Tue, 16 Oct 2018 - 18:44
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Ok

After a few hours on the phone finally, know what this was about

yes it's for driving on the bus line in Colchester
this were three instances within three days in January

When I was trying to find PNC number
guy from the council advise to find PE2 and write that i move home so details were not updated in DVLA

In his opinion, this would be enough to stop enforcement and return to the beginning

now

could someone help me with the statement?
need to send this tomorrow to Traffic enforcement


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post Tue, 16 Oct 2018 - 18:54
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The man at the council is wrong. You need two forms (download here)

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/t...nt-centre-forms

The PE02 is not automatic, it can be challenged by the council and invariably they do. it will then be refused and will then cost money to put before a judge £100 on papers or £255 for a hearing. This is not recoverable. You need to get it right.

What dates are the PCN's

When did you move

when did you update v5c

what arrangements did you make for post


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post Tue, 16 Oct 2018 - 19:06
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QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Tue, 16 Oct 2018 - 19:54) *
The man at the council is wrong. You need two forms (download here)

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/t...nt-centre-forms

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What dates are the PCN's

When did you move

when did you update v5c

what arrangements did you make for post


Two forms? which two? you mean two forms per each case ? I have three notices
PCN are dated 25.01.2018, 25.01.2018, and 27.01.2018
I moved several times since i bought my car but last time was 30.04.2018
- didn't update v5c -yet .....
- i arrange solicitor for tomorrow to sign statments 5 pounds per sign

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post Tue, 16 Oct 2018 - 19:33
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OP, you need to realise that your complete failure to update your V5C means you will have great difficulty overturning these notices. Updating the V5 for address changes is a legal duty that you have failed to do, in fact still have not updated it, so when the council oppose your Out-of-Time statement, what reason have you to explain this failure ? Nothing, I suspect. We see all too many OPs on this forum who have failed to update their V5s, and it is very very difficult to overcome this failure.

Did you update your driver licence ? Many people think this updates the V5, but it doesn't, but is a reasonable excuse, bearing in mind the DVLA covers driver licences and vehicle VED in the same building, As somebody once said to me, (memorably), "they all piss down the same drain, don't they". For me, the failure of DVLA to recognise linkage between licence address and vehicle registration address is a scandal, as it would be extremely easy to link the two databases and then provide notice to the user that a vehicle, (or a licence address) has been found on the other database that is the same as the one being updated, and request a response (yes/no) if the licence (or V5) needs to be updated as well.

Hope I've put that clearly, but I'm sure DVLA understand the problem but are too idle to do anything.

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post Tue, 16 Oct 2018 - 19:47
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QUOTE (Incandescent @ Tue, 16 Oct 2018 - 20:33) *
OP, you need to realise that your complete failure to update your V5C means you will have great difficulty overturning these notices. Updating the V5 for address changes is a legal duty that you have failed to do, in fact still have not updated it, so when the council oppose your Out-of-Time statement, what reason have you to explain this failure ? Nothing, I suspect. We see all too many OPs on this forum who have failed to update their V5s, and it is very very difficult to overcome this failure.

Did you update your driver licence ? Many people think this updates the V5, but it doesn't, but is a reasonable excuse, bearing in mind the DVLA covers driver licences and vehicle VED in the same building, As somebody once said to me, (memorably), "they all piss down the same drain, don't they". For me, the failure of DVLA to recognise linkage between licence address and vehicle registration address is a scandal, as it would be extremely easy to link the two databases and then provide notice to the user that a vehicle, (or a licence address) has been found on the other database that is the same as the one being updated, and request a response (yes/no) if the licence (or V5) needs to be updated as well.

Hope I've put that clearly, but I'm sure DVLA understand the problem but are too idle to do anything.


Yes i understand that this is my failure and yes my driving licence was changed 02/08/2017 is with a different address ( still not last one ....... i know )

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post Tue, 16 Oct 2018 - 20:34
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one more question

can i put same reason on both forms ?
i understand that need to fill PE2 And PE3 for each PCN
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