PCN from Hounslow council |
PCN from Hounslow council |
Mon, 11 Nov 2019 - 23:29
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 11 Nov 2019 Member No.: 106,581 |
Found PCN from Hounslow council on car, but the ticket machine was faulty and displayed out of service message. I have a picture of it.
Can I appeal? -only have 2 days left. |
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Mon, 11 Nov 2019 - 23:29
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Tue, 12 Nov 2019 - 08:34
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Member Group: Closed Posts: 9,710 Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Member No.: 11,355 |
Was the bay also pay by phone?
Worth sending in reps on the broken m/c --with photos, but post up the PCN and GSV first. Mick |
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Wed, 13 Nov 2019 - 00:49
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 11 Nov 2019 Member No.: 106,581 |
Was the bay also pay by phone? Worth sending in reps on the broken m/c --with photos, but post up the PCN and GSV first. Mick Hi Mick, thanks for the reply. I think the pay machine may have been pay by phone also, but I cannot recall, if there is a way to check it, I can save myself a trip? There was no option to call as we did not have a mobile at the time however. That may not hold up though. Location: Clifton RD Isleworth Attached PCN image. |
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Wed, 13 Nov 2019 - 11:17
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 11 Nov 2019 Member No.: 106,581 |
Any advice pls? I have to respond today or fine increases.
Thanks. Was the bay also pay by phone? Worth sending in reps on the broken m/c --with photos, but post up the PCN and GSV first. Mick Hi Mick, thanks for the reply. I think the pay machine may have been pay by phone also, but I cannot recall, if there is a way to check it, I can save myself a trip? There was no option to call as we did not have a mobile at the time however. That may not hold up though. Location: Clifton RD Isleworth Attached PCN image. |
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Wed, 13 Nov 2019 - 11:31
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Member Group: Members Posts: 23,582 Joined: 12 Feb 2013 From: London Member No.: 59,924 |
Pay by phone is an option as signed on the machines but the bay signs as of 2018 just say pay at machine. I would try a challenge saying machine was broken and signs say pay at machine. They will reoffer the discount.
What was reason for parking. Clifton road - I can't make out side of machine very well: https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4747878,-0....6384!8i8192 Here's nearby road with pay by phone location: https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4752764,-0....6384!8i8192 |
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Wed, 13 Nov 2019 - 11:38
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 11 Nov 2019 Member No.: 106,581 |
Thanks stamfordman,
Parking reason was visiting friends, we knew had to pay, but just assumed there would be no fine as the machine clearly displayed fault on the screen. Thanks, will challenge now. Pay by phone is an option as signed on the machines but the bay signs as of 2018 just say pay at machine. I would try a challenge saying machine was broken and signs say pay at machine. They will reoffer the discount. What was reason for parking. Clifton road - I can't make out side of machine very well: https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4747878,-0....6384!8i8192 Here's nearby road with pay by phone location: https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4752764,-0....6384!8i8192 |
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Wed, 13 Nov 2019 - 15:15
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 11 Nov 2019 Member No.: 106,581 |
Parking enforcement have pic (attached) seems it was on the ticket machine. Any other angle I can appeal ?
Thanks stamfordman, Parking reason was visiting friends, we knew had to pay, but just assumed there would be no fine as the machine clearly displayed fault on the screen. Thanks, will challenge now. Pay by phone is an option as signed on the machines but the bay signs as of 2018 just say pay at machine. I would try a challenge saying machine was broken and signs say pay at machine. They will reoffer the discount. What was reason for parking. Clifton road - I can't make out side of machine very well: https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4747878,-0....6384!8i8192 Here's nearby road with pay by phone location: https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4752764,-0....6384!8i8192 |
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Wed, 13 Nov 2019 - 15:26
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Member Group: Members Posts: 23,582 Joined: 12 Feb 2013 From: London Member No.: 59,924 |
Council are almost bound to reject as they will say you should have paid by phone. Someone must have had a phone where you were visiting and you could also have asked for a visitor's permit. But no ask no get.
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Wed, 13 Nov 2019 - 19:27
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
It's worth checking if the Traffic Management Order has been updated to allow pay by phone parking, we've seen instances where the signs are put up but the order is never updated. If the signs still say pay & machine, odds are the order says the same thing.
Even if the order has been updated, there's an argument to be made that if you're allowed to pay by coins, it's up to the council to maintain the machine, you had the wherewithal to pay and it's the council's fault that you were unable to do so. However you would have to take the case to the tribunal as the council will never accept, well, anything. -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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