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Yellow Box Junction PCN - Video included
HYG
post Wed, 10 Jan 2018 - 14:00
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Hi,

I recently received the following PCN from TFL for contravention "31J Entering and stopping in a box junction when prohibited". My car is the silver one behind the green lorry.

I have attached a scanned copy of the Notice. Attached File  20180110130440104.pdf ( 136.9K ) Number of downloads: 24

As you can see from the VIDEO FOOTAGE LINK (might take a moment to display when the link is clicked) when I entered the box junction the road ahead was clear, the lorry was driving straight ahead, (at the lights it was signalling to go right at the roundabout) it then decided to turn its wheels to the left and took the space I was due to drive into. Looking at the video, I should have slowly navigated my way to the left (can't believe I did not do that). It is only my back wheels that are on the box junction (although it seems that is enough to incur a penalty) and I am not actually causing traffic problems, so I feel very harshly done by.

I have looked on the forums and came across the following points mentioned by @stamfordman

I wish to appeal the PCN based on the following information:

- My understanding is that if another vehicle cuts across to take my exit space and this cannot have been foreseen by me the contravention does not occur. In this case, your video shows the green truck drove across my line and, unsure of its intention, I stopped as I felt I had no choice but to let it in.
- In any case, I also understand that the contravention does not occur if my exit was not blocked by stationary vehicles. In this case, the video shows I then had space to the front and left and was not in fact blocked by a stationary vehicle. This is much easier to appreciate from your camera than it was at the time for me, being low down in my car.
- And also from the video, the stop was minimal and in the bounds of 'de minimis'.

On these grounds I would ask you to please cancel the PCN.

I would really appreciate any advice as I do feel rather wronged on this occasion.

Thank you in advance.

This post has been edited by HYG: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 - 20:49
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post Fri, 12 Jan 2018 - 09:55
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@stamforman Thank you.
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