[NIP Wizard] South Wales camera van |
[NIP Wizard] South Wales camera van |
Mon, 18 Jun 2018 - 10:01
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 18 Jun 2018 Member No.: 98,493 |
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? - Date of the offence: - April 2018 Date of the NIP: - 28 days after the offence Date you received the NIP: - 31 days after the offence Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A4059 chapel road penderyn Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - It's a company van, of which I'm the only driver How many current points do you have? - 0 Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - camera van at this location, is it still ok to ask for photograph evidence and the equipment calibration etc NIP Wizard Responses These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation: Have you received a NIP? - Yes Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - No Is the NIP addressed to you personally? - Yes Although you are not the Registered Keeper, were you the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes Were you driving? - Yes Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - Wales NIP Wizard Recommendation Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 10:01:32 +0000 |
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Mon, 18 Jun 2018 - 11:11
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,510 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
...is it still ok to ask for photograph evidence and the equipment calibration etc[/b] You can ask for what you like but they are under no obligation to provide it at this stage. However, they are requesting the driver identity only. The usual advice is to ask for photo to assist in the identification of the driver and they often provide. (i.e. do not mention evidence) The 28 days to respond does not stop though. What's the alleged speed/limit? -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Tue, 19 Jun 2018 - 00:31
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13,572 Joined: 28 Mar 2010 Member No.: 36,528 |
Forget asking for a calibration certificate, it never helps.
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Tue, 19 Jun 2018 - 08:59
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Member Group: Members Posts: 107 Joined: 23 Feb 2018 Member No.: 96,721 |
NIP Details and Circumstances What is the name of the Constabulary? - Date of the offence: - April 2018 Date of the NIP: - 28 days after the offence Date you received the NIP: - 31 days after the offence Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A4059 chapel road penderyn Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - It's a company van, of which I'm the only driver How many current points do you have? - 0 Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - camera van at this location, is it still ok to ask for photograph evidence and the equipment calibration etc NIP Wizard Responses These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation: Have you received a NIP? - Yes Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - No Is the NIP addressed to you personally? - Yes Although you are not the Registered Keeper, were you the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes Were you driving? - Yes Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - Wales NIP Wizard Recommendation Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 10:01:32 +0000 What would you compare the calibration of the instrument against? Your calibrated speedometer and an independent witness that your speedometer read a different but more accurate speed that then speed gun at the exact time the speed reading was made...and that your speed never reached the indicated speed at any time that was within 5 or 10 minutes of the measurement? |
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Tue, 19 Jun 2018 - 10:08
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Member Group: Members Posts: 2,356 Joined: 30 Jun 2008 From: Landan Member No.: 20,731 |
I think the hope is that the police cannot produce said certificate, and that this somehow justifies the charge being dropped. Obviously, if the question is not asked, it cannot be answered in a beneficial way, but I have never heard of it being successful. Some lottery tickets win, too.
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Tue, 19 Jun 2018 - 10:30
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,198 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
Ignoring that there is no requirement in the type approval for it to be annually calibrated (well checked as there is rarely if ever any need for any adjustment) anyway, the police may drop it as 'not in the public interest' but that's a different decision.
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