The 'willing to go to jail to avoid speeding' thread |
The 'willing to go to jail to avoid speeding' thread |
Wed, 13 Jun 2018 - 09:48
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,200 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
Maybe rather than keep starting posts we can put them into one as a warning to others
Two speeding events, not his van honest guvnor, jailed for 6 months. And from the archives under the status of legendary Andy Roo (ex of this parish) Chris Huhne and the ex Mrs Huhne And a future volunteer it seems This post has been edited by The Rookie: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 - 09:50 -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Wed, 13 Jun 2018 - 09:48
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Wed, 13 Jun 2018 - 10:20
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,510 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
And the latest volunteer made a promising start with reasonable queries.
-------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Wed, 13 Jun 2018 - 12:24
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I was tempted to use my Bluestone 42 meme but couldn’t be arsed from my phone.
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Wed, 13 Jun 2018 - 16:43
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Mr Quas must have been the first member here to tempt the jailer:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/spe...ast-whbcqcwwwb8 Jammer case, jailed https://northyorkshire.police.uk/news/man-j...tection-jammer/ Another Jammer, gulty https://northyorkshire.police.uk/news/laser...course-justice/ Jammer has a suspended sentnce on this occasion: https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/crime/...shire-1-8836618 |
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Thu, 14 Jun 2018 - 20:35
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Thu, 14 Jun 2018 - 21:17
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.....Jammer case, jailed...……... Seems cars were dismantled to find the jammer in all the jammer cases ??? Seems a bit extreme to find a black box mounted on the bumper Not really. The evidence needs to be recovered and the systems have more internal components than external...except for the LT400. Even then the LT400 has wiring, control and display within the vehicle. Unless you get the devices out with some form of magical power the vehicle needs to be dismantled. |
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Thu, 14 Jun 2018 - 22:06
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This one was a driving instructor who tried to present a modified GPS track to show he wasn't speeding:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-11938711 I think the thread is a good idea as there's clearly been quite a few people on here who don't understand how serious it is and don't understand the extreme reaction they get when they suggest it. This post has been edited by Tancred: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 - 22:08 |
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Fri, 15 Jun 2018 - 13:36
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This one was a driving instructor who tried to present a modified GPS track to show he wasn't speeding: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-11938711 I think the thread is a good idea as there's clearly been quite a few people on here who don't understand how serious it is and don't understand the extreme reaction they get when they suggest it. Oh forgot about Mr Richards. This guy, Mr C Moir did the same trick.. This report is on the committal hearing but he was eventually convicted of 2 counts of perverting justice at Worcester Crown Court. The papers didn't seem interested in the case after the jury found him guilty. Same trick, fiddled with the GPS data that had been created after the speeding events. |
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Thu, 5 Jul 2018 - 19:23
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The GPS one always seems a strange one for me.
I know we have posters on here who think the police will accept a thirty second snippet and just say case closed. My guess is they would ask for the entire journey as a complete piece of evidence. and suddenly you are falsifying a huge amount of data, with a corresponding huge number of ways for it to be proven incorrect. It seems one of those things that is almost guaranteed not to work and equally guaranteed to be perfect evidence for PCoJ. |
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Thu, 5 Jul 2018 - 20:50
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My guess is they would ask for the entire journey as a complete piece of evidence. and suddenly you are Fixed...? |
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Fri, 6 Jul 2018 - 08:12
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A perverting factory!
Summary, a couple made speeding offences 'go away' by arranging for keepers to name the wrong driver, the couple then replied as that person, innocent people were then convicted, not exactly a complex scam! I wonder if any action is/was taken on the keepers. This post has been edited by The Rookie: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 - 08:13 -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 16:52
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My guess is they would ask for the entire journey as a complete piece of evidence. and suddenly you are Fixed...? GPS data would not be admissible as evidence of excess speed. -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Tue, 10 Jul 2018 - 20:46
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,200 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/loc...e-times-1769814
The truly bizarre! Fabricated a bizarre scenario including claiming to be blackmailed, seems to have got so caught up in his fabrication he didn’t know when to stop. -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Wed, 11 Jul 2018 - 14:40
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https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/loc...e-times-1769814 The truly bizarre! Fabricated a bizarre scenario including claiming to be blackmailed, seems to have got so caught up in his fabrication he didn’t know when to stop. Weird. One wonders what would have happened if the guy he put in the frame had not been in India ? |
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Mon, 23 Jul 2018 - 19:46
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,200 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
Happy to stitch up his Landlord who also has dementia, what a lovely guy....
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/speeding...sabled-14930198 -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Tue, 24 Jul 2018 - 10:19
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Happy to stitch up his Landlord who also has dementia, what a lovely guy.... https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/speeding...sabled-14930198 He is... Did you not read what his barrister said: "the dad-of-four is a "productive member of society" and stressed he pleaded guilty at the first opportunity" I suppose he produced a certain amount of admin for the Courts and Police! As to pleading guilty at the first opportunity wouldn't that have been when he received the 172? -------------------- If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
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Tue, 24 Jul 2018 - 11:12
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,200 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
Indeed, his Barrister seems to have glossed over the "He has a somewhat extensive history of offending." as noted by the prosecutor.
-------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Tue, 24 Jul 2018 - 13:10
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Member Group: Members Posts: 25,726 Joined: 28 Jun 2010 From: Area 51 Member No.: 38,559 |
I like the linked story.
Pretended to be his brother. Worth 6 months in jail. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-ne...tended-14702722 |
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Tue, 24 Jul 2018 - 13:46
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I like the linked story. Pretended to be his brother. Worth 6 months in jail. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-ne...tended-14702722 It would have been a piece of p*ss to escape though. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/cri...-to-escape.html -------------------- Sometimes I use big words I don't understand in an effort to make myself sound more photosynthesis.
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Tue, 24 Jul 2018 - 15:14
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My guess is they would ask for the entire journey as a complete piece of evidence. and suddenly you are falsifying a huge amount of data, with a corresponding huge number of ways for it to be proven incorrect. Dashcams store the most recent 4 to 8 hours and continually overwrite the oldest files unless they've been saved as events By the time the police ask for the data for an entire journey, it will be long gone They've asked me to retain a memory card in case it's needed for a prosecution and agreed that they'll disregard any other files This post has been edited by Redivi: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 - 15:17 |
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