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May have left it a little late, Am I being taken to court?
Tim_tom
post Tue, 4 Jun 2019 - 21:08
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Hi, the driver of our car got a non-council parking ticket a little while ago and have just received a letter saying they're about to take them to court unless they pay the extravagent sum of £160(!)

The driver got the ticket for parking on the bay marking. However, the bay was only marked out on a gravel floor with a dusty grey "T" the same colour as the floor. The driver didn't see the markings until way after they had the ticket. The car next to our car was also parked on where a bay marking would be, but they didn't get a ticket.

The driver appealed and it was rejected. There was no further way to communicate with the company, other than pay them. The driver missed the opportunity to appeal to the independent parking people. Stupid, we know. But that's where we're up to. We have a feeling that we can just ignore them, but from reading here we're still not 100% sure. Do we need to suck it up and pay, or can we just ignore them? Or is there a better way?

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post Tue, 4 Jun 2019 - 21:14
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So show us the redacted PCN
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Tim_tom
post Tue, 4 Jun 2019 - 21:16
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QUOTE (ostell @ Tue, 4 Jun 2019 - 22:14) *
So show us the redacted PCN


The original notice they put on the car?

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post Wed, 5 Jun 2019 - 07:27
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And the one you received in the post

The crystal ball is a bit cloudy at the moment.

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post Wed, 5 Jun 2019 - 08:13
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Which company ?

If it's a member of the IPC, you haven't missed an opportunity to appeal to the independent parking people

You've dodged the bullet of appealing to an organisation that is owned by the company's trade association and guarantees to reject at least 85% of appeals
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Tim_tom
post Wed, 5 Jun 2019 - 12:24
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QUOTE (Redivi @ Wed, 5 Jun 2019 - 09:13) *
Which company ?


Excel Parking. Their site is www.myparkingcharge.co.uk

QUOTE (ostell @ Wed, 5 Jun 2019 - 08:27) *
And the one you received in the post

The crystal ball is a bit cloudy at the moment.


Can't find the one wr got originally, but here's the one we got in the post

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Cannot upload a pic on either my phone or my comp. No idea why
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Edit all your posts to remove any implication of who was driving. Use 'the driver' to describe what happened.

Excel often don't use the Protection of Freedoms Act to invoke Keeper Liability and rely on the driver being outed during appeals and other correspondence. They've also been known to trawl this and similar forums looking for evidence to ID the driver.

Without Keeper Liability they are faced with pursuing the driver only, which you are under no legal obligation to identify.

In terms of attaching pics, the FAQs advise you to host the pics on a photo hosting site like TinyPic or Imgur, and then post the links in here.


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post Wed, 5 Jun 2019 - 14:01
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QUOTE (ManxRed @ Wed, 5 Jun 2019 - 14:16) *
Edit all your posts to remove any implication of who was driving. Use 'the driver' to describe what happened.

Excel often don't use the Protection of Freedoms Act to invoke Keeper Liability and rely on the driver being outed during appeals and other correspondence. They've also been known to trawl this and similar forums looking for evidence to ID the driver.

Without Keeper Liability they are faced with pursuing the driver only, which you are under no legal obligation to identify.

In terms of attaching pics, the FAQs advise you to host the pics on a photo hosting site like TinyPic or Imgur, and then post the links in here.


Edited the posts. Thanks. However we are not sure of we outed ourselves in the first correspondence with them. May well have done as we didn't know places like this existed and stupidly thought they would be reasonable
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post Wed, 5 Jun 2019 - 14:08
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Did you take pictures of the state of the bays at the time, and do you still have them?


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post Wed, 5 Jun 2019 - 14:18
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http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2a8q0cm&s=9#.XPfOk5Ao80M

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Did you take pictures of the state of the bays at the time, and do you still have them?


The state of the bays are on their pics, but I can get them easily if needed. We didn't know it was for that till wr got home, that's how poorly they are marked out. Didn't see the markings till we went to appeal and the pics they took loaded up
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post Sun, 9 Jun 2019 - 14:34
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I've tried to appeal through the independent appeals service and it says they can't accept my appeal as it's out of time. What can I do?
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post Sun, 9 Jun 2019 - 17:40
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Just as well as you would have lost anyway. It is recommended that no appeals are made to the IAS. It is run by the same solicitors that run the IPC and take cases to court.

How about posting the NTK, as asked.
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post Sun, 9 Jun 2019 - 19:28
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QUOTE (ostell @ Sun, 9 Jun 2019 - 18:40) *
How about posting the NTK, as asked.

I thought I had?
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QUOTE (Redivi @ Wed, 5 Jun 2019 - 08:13) *
If it's a member of the IPC, you haven't missed an opportunity to appeal to the independent parking people

You've dodged the bullet of appealing to an organisation that is owned by the company's trade association and guarantees to reject at least 85% of appeals

Please read replies!


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post Tue, 11 Jun 2019 - 14:30
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I have looked and looked and can't find the yellow slip they put on my car at the start of all this. It didn't really say much, hurt that I had a ticket and to pay £25. No other information at all really
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post Tue, 11 Jun 2019 - 15:13
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Not asking for the notice to driver but the notice to keeper that was received in the pist.
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post Tue, 11 Jun 2019 - 16:41
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Mon, 10 Jun 2019 - 06:11) *
QUOTE (Redivi @ Wed, 5 Jun 2019 - 08:13) *
If it's a member of the IPC, you haven't missed an opportunity to appeal to the independent parking people

You've dodged the bullet of appealing to an organisation that is owned by the company's trade association and guarantees to reject at least 85% of appeals

Please read replies!

This hadn't shown up yesterday for some reason. Thanks. Do I just search "independent parking people"?

QUOTE (ostell @ Tue, 11 Jun 2019 - 16:13) *
Not asking for the notice to driver but the notice to keeper that was received in the pist.

I posted this earlier on, does this have the info you need?

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2a8q0cm&s=9#.XPfOk5Ao80M
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post Tue, 11 Jun 2019 - 18:22
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That’s clearly not the first notice you got through the post either, we need the first one.

Why on earth would you be searching ‘private parking people’?

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post Wed, 12 Jun 2019 - 14:10
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Tue, 11 Jun 2019 - 19:22) *
That’s clearly not the first notice you got through the post either, we need the first one.

Why on earth would you be searching ‘private parking people’?

Because it says you can still appeal to the "independent parking people". I don't know who that is, and can only go from what was in the post. I'll look, but I don't know where anything else is. I've basically got 2 letters the same from them
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