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Pooface
post Thu, 1 Nov 2018 - 12:14
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Help needed please folks.
The registered keeper received a pcn from parking eye for 20/08/18 staying 3hrs 4 mins sent to a previous address as registered keeper has not updated the registration doc, naughty keeper.
Date on original letter sent to old address is 24/08/18.
The driver incorrectly entered the last 3 digits of reg no as machine was doing its own thing. Amount paid was correct for time stay.
Parking eye used a credit check to obtain new address.
New letter dated 24/10/18, with original pcn enclosed.
They are saying the keeper needs to identify the driver or keeper liable on the back of original pcn.
The cover letter states they could not have reasonably known change of address, fair enough, trying to offer reduced amount of £60. Threats of cc action if ignored, with further legal costs.
Any suggestions gratefully received.
Keeper will be immediately sending off v5 and has been ticked off for not doing this already.
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nosferatu1001
post Thu, 1 Nov 2018 - 12:33
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Yes the keeper WILL be liable.

So no need to hide. PE notices are sufficiently compliant.

IS there proof of payment you could provide? Yes or No.
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post Thu, 1 Nov 2018 - 12:41
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Yes the driver has the parking receipt
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post Thu, 1 Nov 2018 - 13:35
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What is the next action to take?
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nosferatu1001
post Thu, 1 Nov 2018 - 14:12
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Im sorry, was 40 minutes between responses too slow?

Appeal stating that, due to a fault in teh machine, it appeasr as if the machine has not corectly recorded teh VRM. Parking was paid for, see copy of ticket... showing this, and as such you require that the ticket is cancelled.
You are not liable for a PCN issued due to a fault in their equipment
You are not liable for them failing to match up a ticket for a vehicle not in the car park to the entry of your vehicle, and performing their DUTIES as a data controller in ensuring their data streams tally and are rectified
Alternatively, their machine accepted a variation to the contract, and no breach can have occured
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post Thu, 1 Nov 2018 - 14:43
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Not at all slow, I just realised I hadn’t asked what to do next!
Thank you for your great advice, I shall read it thoroughly and update when I have news.
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post Thu, 1 Nov 2018 - 15:01
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Draft your appeal here as well
And get reading other threads.
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post Thu, 1 Nov 2018 - 16:04
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Will do, ace thanks
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post Tue, 6 Nov 2018 - 10:24
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Hi everyone, is it possible to have some feed back on this appeal I am about to send to parkingeye please?

As the registered keeper I am appealing against your Parking Charge Notice as parking was paid for, see copy of the ticket showing correct fee paid for time stay as evidence of this. Therefore the charge is not applicable.

Due to a fault in your machine it appears the machine did not correctly record the vehicle registration number. I am not liable for a Parking Charge Notice issued due to a fault in your equipment.

I am not liable for you failing to match up a ticket issued for a vehicle not in the car park to the entry of my vehicle and performing your duties as a data controller to ensure your data streams tally and are rectified.

Nowhere on the notices displayed did it state that incorrect recording of the vehicle registration number would result in a Parking Charge Notice.

I trust that you will cancel the Parking Charge Notice immediately
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post Tue, 6 Nov 2018 - 10:34
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Trust? Seriously?

Nothing about signage or unconscionable under the circumstances?


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post Tue, 6 Nov 2018 - 10:40
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I presume it was 3 hours paid for and it was 4 minutes over, hence well within the BPS minimum of 10 minutes grace time. Something to mention

Your system, knowing what cars were in the car park from the ANPR, should not have accepted an inputted VRM that it knew was incorrect. You would appear by issuuing the ticket to have accepted, by performance, the variation of your signed parking contract by allowing the payment for an unknown car.

The contract to pay for parking was completed successfully, the error by your machine is de minimis.

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Pooface
post Tue, 6 Nov 2018 - 11:58
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oh and the driver was breastfeeding an infant should I mention this too?
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post Tue, 6 Nov 2018 - 12:24
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Is this better?

As the registered keeper I am appealing against your Parking Charge Notice as parking was paid for, see copy of the ticket showing correct fee paid for time stay as evidence of this. Therefore the charge is not applicable.

The driver paid for 3 hours of parking to issue a Parking Charge Notice for an overstay of 4 minutes is in direct violation of the BPS minimum of 10 minutes grace time to exit the car park.

Due to a fault in your machine it appears the machine did not correctly record the vehicle registration number. I am not liable for a Parking Charge Notice issued due to a fault in your equipment.

I am not liable for you failing to match up a ticket issued for a vehicle not in the car park to the entry of my vehicle and performing your duties as a data controller to ensure your data streams tally and are rectified.

Your system knowing what cars were in the car park from the ANPR, should not have accepted an inputted VRN that it knew was incorrect. By issuing a ticket you have accepted a variation of your terms by allowing a payment for an unknown car.

Nowhere on the notices displayed did it state that incorrect recording of the vehicle registration number would result in a Parking Charge Notice.

The contract to pay for parking was completed successfully, the error by your machine is de minimise.

I demand that you cancel the Parking Charge Notice immediately.

I have also contacted the the landowner to express my disgust at your actions.

is it acceptable that they used a credit search to find my new address? Surely the electoral role would have given them this information?
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post Tue, 6 Nov 2018 - 12:39
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Yes, a credit search is entirely fine.
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post Tue, 6 Nov 2018 - 12:46
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Thank you

Is there anything else I need to put in the appeal, such as the delay in leaving being due to a traffic jam to get to the exit?

I will never park in this car park or any other run by this company.
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nosferatu1001
post Wed, 7 Nov 2018 - 10:57
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Yes, you can state the driver was waiting to leave. Waiting to leave is not parking, and has been decided at court (parking eye about Fistral beach)
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