Good evening,
I have today received a PCN from Buckinghamshire County Council regarding an incident where the vehicle mentioned was "parked or loading/unloading in a restricted street where waiting and loading/unloading restrictions are in force".
This was issued by a civil enforcement officer who had reason to believe that the above parking contravention had occurred and had begun to prepare a PCN for service. The vehicle was driven away from the place in which it was stationary before the CEO had finished preparing the PCN was unable to serve it by affixing it to the vehicle or giving it to the person in charge of the vehicle.
The day of the incident, the driver had parked his car on the corner of the road as many other people do and had quickly gone to pick up a food order for his family after work and had a passenger waiting in the car. As soon as the first officer arrived, the driver was called and ran straight back. The first offer was advised by the passenger that the driver is coming back right now and was happy to not give a PCN, however when the driver had arrived, a second officer had shown up and had written up a PCN in which the driver responded that he has returned, your colleague said it is ok so why are you still issuing this. The driver advised the officer that this will not be paid for and will be appealed and they said they would just send it in the post.
Is there a way I can appeal this particular PCN? I have had to deal with so many in recent months and I refuse to go through with this.
Feedback will be greatly appreciated.
Kind Regards
SK
Post the PCN. Use a pic site and post links. Show us the location on Google street view.
Which pic site would you recommend?
I use Flickr - no ads and you can select BBCode to post the pics so they show on the forum.
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The vehicle was parked right next to the door of the Treatz desert parlour
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You can select the BBcode so we can see them e.g:
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Are you not able to click the links and view the photos? I don't know how to do all this stuff.
If you go to Embed codes on the bottom left and copy BBcode full image and paste that does the trick. It's easier than wading through a list of links.
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We need clearer photos to pinpoint your car. The DYL are not continuous for the whole frontage of Treatz, part of which is in a 'no motor vehicles' area!
But presuming you were parked on the 24/7 waiting and loading restriction then clearly you were in contravention. You cannot just stop at these locations to pop into shops.
GSV shows numerous "no loading at any time" notices in that area.
So is there anything I can do regarding appealing this or should I just simply pay within the 14 days?
https://www.instantstreetview.com/@51.630812,-0.752706,190.96h,1.95p,1.8z
The sign on the other side of the road has no bearing. This one does, but no kerb blips so not adequate
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.6308119,-0.7527056,3a,15y,214.62h,85.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4JVco_PSY-B0Y9ZfYph1UQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
So what can I do?
I'm sorry but I didn't understand a word of that, I'm just going to pay for it and be done with
OP, if you can pay the discount (because you seem minded to do so), then do so. It's your money and choice and the clock stopped ticking yesterday according to the date of the PCN. Therefore we don't have the luxury of time to get the detail we need - and we're still examining the details of location, signs and lines - because we can't assess without these building blocks.
But if the discount is not available??
I received the PCN through the post on the day I posted on this forum which was 03/01/2018 not the date on the notice stating 23/12/2017
What was the date of postmark? Was it first class?
OP---if you try to pay this penalty on line via the Council's website it will, most likely be for the full amount. To get the discount you will have to prove that you got the PCN late --not easy.
In such circumstances is there prejudice --yes because you have not been able to settle within the 14 day "window".
You seem to have two options:-
1. contacting the Council--describing the late post and asking them to re-offer the discount;
2. Fighting the case on the basis of the 1st CEOs comments/inaction and the signage.
If these signs are still in place the information given to a motorist is pretty confusing:-
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.6308499,-0.7528514,3a,20.8y,164.56h,92.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syl_kkSPIDjSU9zM8aSBJag!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
So you are in an area which has restricted access but access none the less. You accessed Treatz but fell foul of a DYL and they are trying to pin the contravention Code 02 "Parked or loading / unloading in a restricted street where waiting and
loading / unloading restrictions are in force".
But no kerb blips:-
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.6306205,-0.7525151,3a,51.7y,261.79h,87.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCwWNyWVoDv9Vc-pJdvfoYQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Bit of a dog's breakfast.
Mick
Step by step,and small steps.
Is the discount available?
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