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3 Tickets in 3 Days, Can I contest?
DSic
post Tue, 17 Apr 2018 - 10:26
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I was unable to park on my road due to the lack of spaces caused by the road works. Believing that a neighbouring road was within my parking zone, I left my vehicle there on a Sunday evening.
I generally leave the house very early and return quite late for work and there were no spaces on my road available, due to the road works and multiple suspended bays. I only discovered the 3 parking tickets upon returning to my car on the Wednesday evening.

The 2nd tickets was issued issued within 24 hours of the previous one, which as far as I know is illegal and I have also been told that councils are unable to issue more than one ticket for the same offence but I am not sure of the latter.

After pointing this out to the council, as well as the road words which have caused hell on my road for the last 2 months, they have refused to cancel any of the tickets.

Essentially I received 3 PCN tickets without moving my car.

Are you able to suggest what my next best course of action is please?

Thanks for any help.

Daniel

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post Tue, 17 Apr 2018 - 11:01
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QUOTE (DSic @ Tue, 17 Apr 2018 - 11:26) *
I was unable to find a parking space outside my house each time


QUOTE (DSic @ Tue, 17 Apr 2018 - 11:26) *
I only discovered the 3 parking tickets upon returning to my car on the Wednesday evening.


It is not clear whether you moved the car each day, or did the car receive 3 PCNs without being moved?


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stamfordman
post Tue, 17 Apr 2018 - 11:14
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Post a PCN and Google Street View of location, and also your challenge and their rejection.
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DSic
post Tue, 17 Apr 2018 - 14:53
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Hi Guys,

I left my car in the same spot, so essentially it was 3 tickets issued without my car moving.

I've attached the PCN challenges and response to this.
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Attached File  P0004689620.PDF ( 167.75K ) Number of downloads: 16
Attached File  P0004689328.PDF ( 158.32K ) Number of downloads: 10
Attached File  P0004689621.PDF ( 163.3K ) Number of downloads: 8
 
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post Tue, 17 Apr 2018 - 15:24
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It is a continuous contravention, so PCNs 2 and 3 can be challenged on that ground. The basic principle is that you can't be punished more than once for a single contravention.

As for PCN 1, please post the PCN (both sides) in full, so we can check for errors. Also if you post a google street view link to the location we can check the signs.
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post Tue, 17 Apr 2018 - 15:27
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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Tue, 17 Apr 2018 - 16:24) *
It is a continuous contravention, so PCNs 2 and 3 can be challenged on that ground. The basic principle is that you can't be punished more than once for a single contravention.


We have though just seen an appeal turned down as the restricted times were not contiguous.
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post Tue, 17 Apr 2018 - 15:30
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QUOTE (stamfordman @ Tue, 17 Apr 2018 - 16:27) *
QUOTE (cp8759 @ Tue, 17 Apr 2018 - 16:24) *
It is a continuous contravention, so PCNs 2 and 3 can be challenged on that ground. The basic principle is that you can't be punished more than once for a single contravention.


We have though just seen an appeal turned down as the restricted times were not contiguous.

I take the view that that case was wrongly decided, but even so, we first need to see the signs to confirm whether the restriction is continuous. Even if it isn't, continuous contravention is still a point that should be put forward.
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post Tue, 17 Apr 2018 - 16:03
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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Tue, 17 Apr 2018 - 16:30) *
QUOTE (stamfordman @ Tue, 17 Apr 2018 - 16:27) *
QUOTE (cp8759 @ Tue, 17 Apr 2018 - 16:24) *
It is a continuous contravention, so PCNs 2 and 3 can be challenged on that ground. The basic principle is that you can't be punished more than once for a single contravention.


We have though just seen an appeal turned down as the restricted times were not contiguous.

I take the view that that case was wrongly decided, but even so, we first need to see the signs to confirm whether the restriction is continuous. Even if it isn't, continuous contravention is still a point that should be put forward.


agreed. if not continuous then continuing and the same legal principle applies
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DSic
post Tue, 17 Apr 2018 - 16:07
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Here is the google street view:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5433609,-...3312!8i6656

Let me know if you require anything else.

Thank you for all the help so far.

Thanks,

Daniel
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post Tue, 17 Apr 2018 - 16:16
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PCN's front of each and back of one
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DSic
post Yesterday, 10:51
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Hi All,

Apologies for the delay in uploading this.

I can't seem to get the pictures uploaded due to file size. Can you help without them?

Thanks,

Daniel
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John U.K.
post Yesterday, 12:11
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QUOTE (DSic @ Fri, 20 Apr 2018 - 10:51) *
Hi All,

Apologies for the delay in uploading this.

I can't seem to get the pictures uploaded due to file size. Can you help without them?

Thanks,

Daniel


Try this:

Do not attach docs/photos, but use this method:

Photo or scan. see http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=36858&st=0
for how to do it. I use Tinypic for stage 2 with no problems. Thera are other sites, such as Flickr (where the BBcodes are concealed behind the curly arrow (click on it) for sharing), which enable you to paste the BBCodes into your post here.
STAGE 1 takes care of resizing. If you use Tinypic for Stage 2, on the left each image in Tinypic is a list of links. Highlight and copy the entire link 'for forums' from the list for each image - beginning with IMG and ending /IMG (include all the square brackets [ ] ), and paste each link into your post. Each copied and pasted link will embed a thumbnail link in your post.

Using the attachment method is not advised as it means quickly running out of attachment space.

Redact/obscure name, address, PCN number and reg.mark.
LEAVE IN all dates/times; precise location, Contravention code and description.
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post Yesterday, 13:34
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Here we go:

Back of PCN
https://imageshack.com/a/img922/8440/iQfVyZ.jpg

PCN. No.1
https://imageshack.com/a/img923/170/FoCFjp.jpg

PCN. No.2
https://imageshack.com/a/img922/2470/rnIOJV.jpg

PCN. No.3
https://imageshack.com/a/img924/5162/HJV8YA.jpg


Let me know if you need anything else.

Thanks and I hope you all have great weekends of some sunshine
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