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PE2, PE3 REFUSED BY TEC, HELP WITH FILLING IN N244 FORM
John Lewis
post Wed, 7 Jun 2023 - 12:32
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Hello there,
Im sure Im not the first and probably my case is not that special. Just to mention as it seems important English is not my mother language and Im absolutely lost in any terminology related to law. Please be patient. I red all I could find on forum but it is lots of information and it is little confusing and as it is never happened to me before so officially Im lost. Not mentioning that Im just went to bankruptcy and trying to make my living with Universal Credit support again it was just a click from stars to the stair so im underline below. Cut it short by trying to get any possible help I obliviously lost some time and now I have just few days left until Im in title to file N224 with TEC. Basically I live where I work or close to and I moved to Brent without permission for registered address just simple post without registration. So I kept my permanent address live. In a main time I stopped at yellow boxes section due to traffic and from day when the matter accrue till day when my car was towed away from not registered place of living (have to admit bailiffs do search well) I had no idea I actually had PCN issued in a first place. Mistery but I never received anything and I have been coming back obliviously to check on post and other things from time to time. I even have another PCN for speed assess sent to my registered address but never and nothing regarding that PCN which Im asking for help with now. So address is not an issue. I moved on the 19th of Feb 2023 to my new address and only then I change address on my DL as now I moved permanently.
Comming to subject of PCN. One evening a week bf bailiffs took my vehicle away I noticed a white van almost every evening parked just behind me and then the same van on the day when car been towed away. Where should I start? On the 8th of Feb I realized that my car is not parked any longer. Took me a half day trying to locate it and finally Im at DVLA pound paying borrowed £624 with no much discussion as apparently the workers just renting the land and DVLA representatives are based somewhere else. Payed, car taken. I found a sticker on the car with the mobile nr and other information attached to the side window. Called to all numbers on and been advised to fail PE2 and PE3 forms to TEC. Not far ago received Refusal and need to apply against it or whatever it calls. Im attaching everything I have. Please please please, anyone, advise what should i do next?
Thank you very much for your help regardless. If I knew this forums are existing..Anyway you do a massive help to simple citizens. Amazing how system makes you feel so powerless.
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post Wed, 7 Jun 2023 - 13:49
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I can see on the Refusal letter it says the PCN has been sent 25th May 2022. Also it says the Statutory Declaration form that you used a different address from what it is shown from DVLA.

You said you moved on 19th February 2023.

Did you move to a temporary address around 25th May 2022?
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post Sun, 18 Jun 2023 - 11:45
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Thread continued here: https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-no...nd-pe3-refused/


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John Lewis
post Sun, 18 Jun 2023 - 12:23
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QUOTE (Gerfc1 @ Wed, 7 Jun 2023 - 14:49) *
I can see on the Refusal letter it says the PCN has been sent 25th May 2022. Also it says the Statutory Declaration form that you used a different address from what it is shown from DVLA.

You said you moved on 19th February 2023.

Did you move to a temporary address around 25th May 2022?



I moved to Brent end of Apr 2022, I moved to temporary accommodation first for few months without
permit to be registered, when I finally signed a permanent 1 year contract I changed my address with the DVLA. As I wished to wait until I had found permanent accommodation to avoid having to repeatedly change my address with the DVLA. The new tenants of my previous address had mine and my old sharers phone details and my landlord had my details, we had a verbal agreement to forward or let us know regarding any mail.
It is for this reason that i did not receive any documentation relating to the PCN and therefore was
deprived of my right to appeal and to pay the fine as I was completely unaware of the existence of the
PCN.
I have received another PCN in a main time for the speed excess sent to my old address what have been delt
with imitatively, proving ones again that I never received any correspondence related to PCN Im having trouble with now. Otherwise I would react immediately.
I realized that PCN was issued in a first place only when my car have been towed away. I had no chance to appeal or make any representation or pay on time. I was forced to pay 624£ to get vehicle relised.
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Im simple resident who always respects law and Im going through the taught times and Im
counting every penny. Im on UC support and I have limited asses to work as I have health conditions. I 'have no sources or saving to hire solicitor to help me deal with this case, also English is not my mother
language and I'm completely lost with the law terminology.
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