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MarkS627
post Tue, 9 Jan 2018 - 23:43
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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - January 2018
Date of the NIP: - 5 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 6 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - At M3 Junction 3-4, CAMBERLEY, UNITED KINGDON
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - The M3 was completely empty and I was not paying attention to the speed. A camera flashed which caused me to brake suddenly.

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Tue, 09 Jan 2018 23:41:27 +0000

Speed was 97. Speed limit 70.
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post Tue, 9 Jan 2018 - 23:47
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Any questions?

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MarkS627
post Tue, 9 Jan 2018 - 23:54
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Thanks

How long a ban if any?
How big a fine?
Where will I have to go to court? Will I have to go to Surrey?

Thanks for your help.
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post Wed, 10 Jan 2018 - 00:50
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A short ban is possible but very unlikely, most likely you will get 5 or 6 points. The fine will be one week's net income, less 33% for a guilty plea, plus 10% surcharge (minimum £30), plus costs of £85. It will be dealt with by a court (Fixed penalty only up to 95 in a 70 limit) but you can plead guilty by post and not have to attend. A not guilty plea would mean you had to go to court in Surrey.


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MarkS627
post Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 12:00
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I was flashed by a motorway speed camera on the 3rd January. I responded to the NIP within 28 days.

Only now do I have the court papers through a little longer than six months later.

Where do I find the relevant date that the papers were "laid before the court"?

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post Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 12:03
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It’s unlikely that they were. You’re likely to have a written charge and single justice procedure notice. What date does it say the charge was issued on?


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post Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 12:04
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You don’t, what you need is the date of issue of the written charge which will be on it.


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post Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 12:09
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Yes, I have a single justice procedure notice.

Charge date: 02/07/2018.

So just in time for them - right?

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post Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 12:15
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QUOTE (MarkS627 @ Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 13:09) *
Charge date: 02/07/2018.

So just in time for them - right?


Yep.
What is alleged speed and limit?


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post Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 12:17
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QUOTE (peterguk @ Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 13:15) *
QUOTE (MarkS627 @ Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 13:09) *
Charge date: 02/07/2018.

So just in time for them - right?


Yep.
What is alleged speed and limit?


97 in a 70.
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post Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 18:25
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Does the SJPN have an issue date?


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post Sun, 8 Jul 2018 - 18:50
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