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PCN from Hammersmith and Fulham, Timings of contacting me for PCN
Owler
post Thu, 12 Oct 2017 - 17:19
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Hi Guys,

I am new to this forum but I have received a PCN from Hammersmith and Fulham Council, stating an entering and stopping in a box junction when prohibited offence. I am not from the area and was down there for the football, I do not know the area and was just following the sat nav in traffic. The offence is clear and correct but there is 42 day delay between the offence and the date of the notice. I lease my car and the lease firm charged me £12 to retrieve my details for H&F back in September, also the notice i dated the 6th and sent first class but it's 12th today when I received it.

Now I thought that they had 14 days from either the offence or retrieving my details or this notice could be quashed as not handled in a timely manner....

Where do I stand with this, many thanks.



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hcandersen
post Thu, 9 Nov 2017 - 09:26
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Isn't life funny!

It is a gyratory, but in their NOR the authority do not consider it as such: they refer to it only as a junction or T-junction.

Good news, the argument regarding right turn could be applied, IMO.

Bad news: the OP's car at the time of the contravention was not prevented from exiting by a car waiting to turn right, the car in question has completed the turn and is simply stationary outside the box.

As per PMB, the discount looks attractive because adjudicators are difficult to pursuade on technicalities, if any exist, when the contravention is clear.
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- Owler   PCN from Hammersmith and Fulham   Thu, 12 Oct 2017 - 17:19
- - Enceladus   Please use correctly formatted IMG links.   Thu, 12 Oct 2017 - 17:59
- - Owler   QUOTE (Owler @ Thu, 12 Oct 2017 - 18...   Mon, 16 Oct 2017 - 08:09
- - DancingDad   Given that this relates to a lease car, chances ar...   Mon, 16 Oct 2017 - 08:18
|- - Incandescent   QUOTE (DancingDad @ Mon, 16 Oct 2017 - 0...   Mon, 16 Oct 2017 - 09:37
- - Enceladus   Does it say anything anywhere on the PCN about re-...   Mon, 16 Oct 2017 - 10:09
|- - Owler   QUOTE (Enceladus @ Mon, 16 Oct 2017 - 11...   Mon, 16 Oct 2017 - 18:50
- - Neil B   What video?   Mon, 16 Oct 2017 - 19:30
|- - Owler   QUOTE (Neil B @ Mon, 16 Oct 2017 - 20...   Tue, 17 Oct 2017 - 13:36
|- - Neil B   QUOTE (Owler @ Tue, 17 Oct 2017 - 14...   Tue, 17 Oct 2017 - 13:42
|- - Owler   QUOTE (Neil B @ Tue, 17 Oct 2017 - 14...   Tue, 17 Oct 2017 - 18:27
|- - The Cab Driver   QUOTE (Owler @ Tue, 17 Oct 2017 - 19...   Wed, 18 Oct 2017 - 17:56
||- - PASTMYBEST   QUOTE (The Cab Driver @ Wed, 18 Oct 2017 ...   Wed, 18 Oct 2017 - 18:14
|- - Owler   I have had to Quicktime screen grab it but its 170...   Thu, 19 Oct 2017 - 14:11
|- - Neil B   QUOTE (Owler @ Thu, 19 Oct 2017 - 15...   Thu, 19 Oct 2017 - 15:37
|- - Owler   QUOTE (Neil B @ Thu, 19 Oct 2017 - 16...   Fri, 20 Oct 2017 - 07:39
|- - Owler   QUOTE (Neil B @ Thu, 19 Oct 2017 - 15...   Wed, 8 Nov 2017 - 18:03
- - The Cab Driver   I also received a PCN from Hamm. & Fulham for ...   Mon, 16 Oct 2017 - 20:21
|- - Neil B   Can't see how you failed to get a review when,...   Mon, 16 Oct 2017 - 21:18
|- - The Cab Driver   [quote name='Neil B' date='Mon, 16 Oct...   Tue, 17 Oct 2017 - 11:31
||- - Neil B   Ah, so not out of time then: You said this - QUOTE...   Tue, 17 Oct 2017 - 12:08
||- - The Cab Driver   QUOTE (Neil B @ Tue, 17 Oct 2017 - 13...   Thu, 19 Oct 2017 - 12:40
|- - The Cab Driver   This is worrying. QUOTE (The Cab Driver @ Mon...   Tue, 17 Oct 2017 - 11:56
- - Enceladus   I'm sure we've had this junction before. A...   Thu, 19 Oct 2017 - 16:28
- - Neil B   The exemption doesn't apply, simply because it...   Thu, 19 Oct 2017 - 17:24
- - Enceladus   I can only find one other case for this junction t...   Fri, 20 Oct 2017 - 08:14
- - hcandersen   @Enceladus. I think you've missed a bit. Acc...   Fri, 20 Oct 2017 - 08:19
- - Enceladus   What is there to indicate a roundabout? And I...   Fri, 20 Oct 2017 - 08:38
|- - Neil B   QUOTE (Enceladus @ Fri, 20 Oct 2017 - 09...   Fri, 20 Oct 2017 - 09:30
- - Neil B   217002454A supports you and is 100% wrong. For th...   Fri, 20 Oct 2017 - 09:51
- - Enceladus   Somethings up with the LT register. The number of ...   Fri, 20 Oct 2017 - 10:25
|- - Neil B   QUOTE (Enceladus @ Fri, 20 Oct 2017 - 11...   Fri, 20 Oct 2017 - 10:38
- - John U.K.   QUOTE I've had a letter rejecting my represent...   Wed, 8 Nov 2017 - 18:49
|- - Owler   QUOTE (John U.K. @ Wed, 8 Nov 2017 - 18...   Thu, 9 Nov 2017 - 08:34
- - PASTMYBEST   Agree with HCA at post 26 it is a gyratory system ...   Thu, 9 Nov 2017 - 09:11
- - hcandersen   Isn't life funny! It is a gyratory, but i...   Thu, 9 Nov 2017 - 09:26


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