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Bigden136
post Sat, 12 Jan 2019 - 18:25
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A family member has received a number of "Penalty Notice By Post - Notice To Owner". The text states that "all vehicles are parked subject to Railway Byelaws. These have been issued by PCN Admin Center which is trading name of ZZPS. The appeals can only be made a domain called "ipaymypcn.net" or directly back to PCN admin center which strikes me as not independent!

I have a few of questions:


1. Does the Penalty Notice have to be issue within 14 days to be enforceable as some are outside of this
2. Are these enforceable given the land is subject to Railway Byelaws?

Would someone be so kind to let me know if there are templates that I can use to refute these charges.

Below is the text of the Penalty Notice:

Any Help would be mostly appreciated
Thanks
Den


All vehicles are parked subject to the Railway Byelaws ("Byelaws") as displayed on the signage at the location.
The Byelaws were made under section 219 of the Transport Act 2000 as amended under the Railways Act 2005, and an offence has been committed by breaching Byelaw 14. Having identified that an offence has occurred, your data has been released by the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency as our client has reasonable cause (under Regulation 27(1 )(e) of the Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) Regulations 2002). Their records indicate that you were the registered keeper of the vehicle on the date that the offence was committed.
The above penalty is now due plus any additional cost which may be incurred in its recovery.
In the event that this remains unpaid, then our Client may pursue you through the Magistrates Court by way of a private criminal prosecution. This can result in a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale set out in section 37 of the Criminal Justice Act 1982, currently £1000. We urge you to take up this offer of disposal. '
Additionally, Byelaw. 14(4)ii allows for vehicles to be clamped, and our client may well exercise this option in future. You will be liable for all costs associated with the clamp, its removal and potentially any unpaid notices outstanding for the same VRM.
The amount payable will be discounted to £60 if this is paid within 14 days.
Photographic evidence is held on file to support this claim in accordance with the Data Protection Act. The data is used for the sole purpose of pursuing settlement of this offer.
Please pay this penalty now or see overleaf for further details.
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Bigden136
post Mon, 11 Mar 2019 - 23:01
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Redacted Appeal response is attached... original upload failed due to file size error
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HappyHarry
post Mon, 11 Mar 2019 - 23:14
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Hello Bigden. Yes, appeal online around Day 26. Take screenshots showing that your appeal docs have been loaded and keep a copy of th evidence pack you get sent. If your experience be anything like mine, they won’t take a scrap of notice of any of your appeal points. I’m having fun doing lots of complaining about ITAL’s scandalous non-impartiality.

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post Sun, 17 Mar 2019 - 17:32
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I need a bit of help again please.. I seemed to have missed the 26 day deadline on one of the appeals and now have a debt collection letter.... £100 plus a ridiculous £70 admin charge.......what are my options given I missed the deadline?
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post Sun, 17 Mar 2019 - 20:07
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Send in the appeal and ignore the debt collectors. The deadlines are of their own making
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Bigden136
post Sat, 23 Mar 2019 - 20:26
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I note that the appeal can be submitted online or via post:

https://www.asparking.co.uk/NewAppeal/ChooseMethod/IN

what would be the best option in this case and would it make a difference?

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Gary Bloke
post Mon, 25 Mar 2019 - 08:45
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If you appeal using their website you may find that you are forced into answering questions that you'd rather not have to. If you write a letter and put it in the post, you retain control of the content. Allow 2 days for delivery using first class post. Get a proof-of-posting receipt.
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Bigden136
post Sat, 6 Apr 2019 - 21:16
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so.. an update...

Received another "Final Reminder of Unpaid Debt"... see attached...

- Accuse me of ignoring their previous whereas I sent a letter to deny that a debt existed as Penalty Notice was in appeal. (how they can justify adding £70 admin charges to original Penalty Chrag is beyond me!)
- Now give me 14 days to pay or they will pass it on to debt collectors


Is best option here to write back again to deny debt and highlight they in fact ignored my last request not to harass me!??

Any help/comment is much appreciated





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Gary Bloke
post Sat, 6 Apr 2019 - 21:24
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Ignore them, "legal debt recovery" means you get a couple of letters from QDR solicitors, alias Wright Hassall. They will also claim there is a debt. You might reply pointing out their error, or you could ignore them too.
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Bigden136
post Sun, 14 Apr 2019 - 22:09
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SO ZZPS seemed to have completely ignored my appeal letters and now have sent a series of "Unpaid Debt" letters - do i just ignore these or reply citing the fact it is constituted as harassment?

What are they likely to do next?
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post Sun, 14 Apr 2019 - 22:50
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Send a few more letters. You need to develop a thick skin to deal with them.
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Bigden136
post Sat, 27 Apr 2019 - 23:13
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So I have received a "Final Reminder of Unpaid Debt" form ZZPS who call themselves a "professional Debt Collection Agency" who have been instructed by Indigo Park Solutions Limited to obtain payment of the debt.

If I don't then the letter says:

- "We could instruct a local agent to discuss payment of the debt"
- "We could recommend to our client that a private criminal prosecution be brought against you"

Alternatively I have 14 days to decide whether I should pay this alleged debt

Should I respond to advise there is no deb and that this is just pure harassment?

Thanks for you help
Bigden
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Gary Bloke
post Sat, 27 Apr 2019 - 23:48
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You can ignore everything from ZZPS. You can also ignore the solicitor's letters. The only thing you should never ignore is a letter before claim or letter before action (ie if they really will take it to court).
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