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dan79
post Mon, 2 Apr 2018 - 12:34
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I was away so got the letter late and it seems I have to sort today, I will probably pay today unless anyone can see of a reason why this letter is wrong. Looks like I made a mistake but the charges seem rather excessive , the amount of one way systems in London is rediculous.

Anyway if anyone can help would be greatly appreciated, if not I guess im bang to rights.






Ive checked the road again, I think its recently made no entry, is there a way of contacting the council to find out?

It has please see below, the second one down is a pdf explaining the change.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=oper...1.0.Wf57YbVJtRI

Obviously satnav is no excuse but I have used that road regularly , that day was heavy weather so visibility wasnt great , still no excuse. But seems a harsh price. Can I possibly send a reply now and they keep the fee at£65 until we go further.
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post Sat, 4 Aug 2018 - 11:29
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The reaseon I put they is becuase it was a woman, ill change to herself etc. Is it two weeks I have to appeal?
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post Sat, 4 Aug 2018 - 12:06
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With respect, I think we’re on the wrong track.


An appeal is against the PCN, not the CC.

The contents or otherwise of a CC are wholly irrelevant to the proceedings.

The adjudicator’s decision however makes it clear that my grounds of appeal as regards the adequacy of the PCN were judged by the adjudicator against the wrong mandatory requirement (and for good measure was misstated even if it did apply)

Wih respect, it must therefore follow that as the adjudicator applied the wrong law, their decision cannot be sound and with respect my appeal should be allowed.


...I suspect it was a slip of the tongue. But as with drivers, mistakes have consequences.

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post Sat, 4 Aug 2018 - 12:56
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I've updated post #40 to make it clear that the review is against the findings concerning the PCN; I would submit it asap.


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dan79
post Mon, 6 Aug 2018 - 22:35
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Thanks everyone ive emailed to their enqiuries email as my printer is not working, do I have to send by post really?
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dan79
post Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 12:22
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Ive just spoke to them an email was fine, thank you
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post Mon, 13 Aug 2018 - 14:26
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No Luck I take it thats it??


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London Borough of Hounslow
(the Enforcement Authority)
Vehicle Registration Number:
Penalty Charge Notice(s):
Further to your correspondence, the adjudicator, , has directed that there are no grounds
for there to be a review of this case.
"This is an application by the Appellant for a review of the decision that was sent to the parties in this
appeal.
I have considered the Appellant's application for a review, I have read the original Adjudicator's
decision and the evidence. I find that in seeking to review this decision he is contesting the findings
made by the original Adjudicator in relation to the validity of the Penalty Charge Notice (PCN).

The Adjudicator made a clear finding that the PCN complied with the relevant legislation the London
Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003. In the Act 28 days from the date of the Notice is
stipulated in relation to payment and increase, however 28 days from the date of service of the Notice
is required in relation to the acceptance of representations.

In any event the PCN is sufficiently compliant to indicate the rights a motorist has in challenging a
PCN and its financial consequences.
I do not find that there is any fresh evidence that was not or could not have been made available at
the hearing.

I find that the Adjudicator was entitled to reach the decision she did on the basis of the evidence
before her and that it discloses no error of law. There is no ground under the Regulations on which
that decision may be disturbed.
The application is refused and the original decision stands."

An independent tribunal for environment, parking and traffic penalty appeals
Environment and Traffic Adjudicators are supported by London Tribunals, a service provided by London Councils
Calls to London Tribunals may be recorded
Your application for review is therefore rejected.
The Enforcement Authority has been notified of this decision, and is entitled to continue with its
enforcement procedures. You are liable for the penalty, which you should pay without delay if you
have not already done so.
Do not wait for the Enforcement Authority to contact you. If you do not pay the penalty promptly, the
Enforcement Authority may issue a Charge Certificate increasing the penalty by 50%.

Case Management Team
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post Tue, 14 Aug 2018 - 22:28
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I wonder what the point of these reviews are, they seem to get rejected regardless of the merits.

Your options now are:

1) Accept defeat
2) Take out a judicial review in the High Court against the tribunal, this being a full costs jurisdiction you would be liable for costs if you lose (This could be a few thousand pounds if the council contest it).


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post Wed, 15 Aug 2018 - 14:27
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Ok thanks seems I will just have to accept as dont really have the money, and I thought there was a good chance of winning this one, clearly not
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post Thu, 16 Aug 2018 - 07:45
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Can you still ask the chief adjudicator to look at the decision? If what is written here is correct two adjudicators have misdirected themselves as to the law, despite having it put before them.
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post Thu, 16 Aug 2018 - 21:48
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Ive paid now, can I still do this?
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post Thu, 16 Aug 2018 - 22:07
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QUOTE (dan79 @ Thu, 16 Aug 2018 - 22:48) *
Ive paid now, can I still do this?

You have nothing to lose, asking for a review isn't impacted by the fact that you've paid.


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post Fri, 17 Aug 2018 - 11:05
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QUOTE (sputnik365 @ Thu, 16 Aug 2018 - 07:45) *
Can you still ask the chief adjudicator to look at the decision? If what is written here is correct two adjudicators have misdirected themselves as to the law, despite having it put before them.


How do I ask the chief do I just put in another review?

Thanks
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post Fri, 17 Aug 2018 - 21:04
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QUOTE (dan79 @ Fri, 17 Aug 2018 - 12:05) *
QUOTE (sputnik365 @ Thu, 16 Aug 2018 - 07:45) *
Can you still ask the chief adjudicator to look at the decision? If what is written here is correct two adjudicators have misdirected themselves as to the law, despite having it put before them.


How do I ask the chief do I just put in another review?

Thanks

@sputnik365 can you answer this? To my knowledge it's never worked but maybe you know something I don't?


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post Sun, 19 Aug 2018 - 05:09
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No idea if there is a process, but if I remember correctly (from here) it has been done. Nothing to lose by contacting Caroline Sheppard if the law as quoted here is correct. I am sure she would like to know that her legally qualified underlings are ignoring the law.
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post Tue, 21 Aug 2018 - 11:35
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Should I write it any different or just go with what I have?
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post Tue, 21 Aug 2018 - 19:48
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I would go with what you've got.


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post Tue, 21 Aug 2018 - 20:27
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Chief adjudicator is Caroline Hamilton. I Think

I have seen a case where the review was also reviewed so it does happen

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post Thu, 23 Aug 2018 - 14:22
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In response to your email which was sent to the Chief Adjudicator at the Traffic Penalty Tribunal please note that the Traffic Penalty Tribunal is not associated with London Tribunals.



We are therefore unable to respond to your email.



It has been forwarded on your behalf to the London Tribunals.





Regards

Traffic Penalty Tribunal
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post Sat, 15 Sep 2018 - 11:35
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Sorry for delay here was there response....



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post Sat, 15 Sep 2018 - 18:21
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You've posted the first page twice!
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