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Number plate fine, Decal number plate fine
Audia32011
post Sat, 23 Mar 2019 - 17:41
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Hi all I have been given a 100 fine that I think is kind of invalid, its for a decal number plate on my car it is full size and bs standard reflective background, full size lettering, 11mm spacings and manufacturers name. I have been stopped 3 times by a standard police officer for my number plate he has no knowledge on number plate legislation at all. First time he stopped me he told me it was an mot failure. I argued the case and told him that it passed its mot. So he then left. Second time same officer stopped me. Said it was illegal and I asked why he said because it is a decal not a number plate. And told me it wasn't attached to the vehicle properly, I asked him to take it off and he couldn't. He then rang a traffic officer who then told me it would pass its mot and told me to remove it. I didn't. After that occurrence I did some looking around speaking to other officers and they said they couldn't see a problem with it as it was clearly visible. 3rd time he stopped me I told him I wanted his badge number and name so I could report him for harassment. He then give me a 100 fine and said it wasn't legal? But refused to tell me why. I reported him for harassment and that has been sorted, so he won't be bothering me anymore however I'm still getting fined because they can't do anything about it. How do I go about fighting this in court even the officer Sargent said he couldn't see anything wrong with it. Need some advice.

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Shane
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post Wed, 27 Mar 2019 - 15:01
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Clearly the OP needs to return to the thread if any further (relevant) advice is desired. In particular, we need to know if the company that sold the numberplates will stand behind its claim that they are compliant with the standard. Perhaps they were sold attached to perspex backing plates, and the buyer ignored the "do not under any circumstances remove the sticker from the backing plate and stick it directly to the car bonnet--that would be wrong" instruction?

The term "retroreflection" is defined in BSAU145d: "Reflection in which the reflected rays are preferentially returned in directions close to the opposite of the direction of the incident rays, this property being maintained over wide variations of the direction of the incident rays." This is hardly controversial, because this is the kind of reflection that has been used in road signs and number plates the world over for many years. All numberplates sold as "numberplates" will be retroflective in the background, non-retroreflective in the characters.

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post Thu, 28 Mar 2019 - 17:39
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It seems that the discussion over the legality or otherwise of the plate will only be decided by a court, since it can't even be agreed in this thread. However, we do know two things: First, the supplier asserts that the plate is compliant, and second, a number plate offence is non-endorseable, so OP isn't risking any points by going to court.

In his place, I'd go to court, armed with whatever assurances I could get from the supplier that the plate is indeed legal. If I lost, I'd immediately start a civil claim against the supplier, since they misrepresented the legality of their product, and I have a court judgment which proves a demonstrable loss as a result of that misrepresentation.
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post Thu, 14 Nov 2019 - 12:25
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The OP hasn't logged on since the end of March, unlikely they will be coming back.
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