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post Sat, 18 Aug 2018 - 11:08
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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - August 2018
Date of the NIP: - 3 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 4 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - M5 6 to 5 Northbound H
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - I was driving home from south somerset.

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

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post Sat, 18 Aug 2018 - 11:09
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Any questions?

That will be referred to court, a short ban is a distinct possibility but otherwise 6 points.


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post Sat, 18 Aug 2018 - 18:04
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I have a 150 mile commute to work I'm worried about my job.
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post Sat, 18 Aug 2018 - 18:19
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Any ban will be quite short, it won’t come to court for circa 6 months so worth saving holiday and looking at other options like staying locally for a week perhaps.


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post Sat, 18 Aug 2018 - 18:54
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Increasingly that sort of speed is getting six points and you can subtlety suggest it as a good option to magistrates, "I understand that I will receive a considerable number of points and rest assured they will act as a constant reminder to observe speed limits for many years".

Obviously if you travel at that sort of speed routinely you are at high risk of getting another six points and likely a six month ban. With your commute you need to be a bit more cautious for the next three years (points count from the date of the offence).
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post Sat, 18 Aug 2018 - 19:27
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QUOTE (postage stamp @ Sat, 18 Aug 2018 - 19:04) *
I have a 150 mile commute to work I'm worried about my job.

A ton nowadays isn't necessarily a ban. 6 points is still quite likely but they may want to ban you for a few weeks.


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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hey: Just an update I had to go to court and I received 6 points and £643 fine.
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post Sat, 23 Mar 2019 - 20:44
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Not a bad result, thanks for updating us.


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