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iangill
post Tue, 15 Jan 2019 - 20:05
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Today, a friend of mine received a parking ticket from UK Parking Control.
Here is an account of what happened.


Car park is a small underground space which is not very well lit. Used to belong to a supermarket but now is privately owned. There are bays but at least 8 are sectioned off due to damage and there are some spaces that have been squashed into a corner. Disabled bays used by anyone and it's quite dark to see the markings. As you enter the car park there is enough space for two cars which doesn't obstruct anything. This area is used frequently and there was a taxi driver who said my friend would be fine. My friend checked the walls and there were no clear posters or wording to say DO NOT PARK etc. My friend phoned the number which was clear and paid for three hours. The ticket says that the attendant had reasonable cause to believe my friend had not parked correctly within the markings of a bay or space but there were no markings to park within but no notice to say don't park here either.

Any advice n the matter is greatly appreciated.

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post Sat, 19 Jan 2019 - 08:51
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If they've got photos they can easily get the ntk to you. It's been done before.

Pers9nally is wait for the ntk. There is NO CHANCE the ntk can be compliant.
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Redivi
post Sat, 19 Jan 2019 - 09:12
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Does the incorrect VRN exist ?

In a case like this, I wouldn't give UKPC any help to get on your trail by making the Day 26 appeal
They can still choose not to rely on POPLA and assume the OP was driving

I certainly wouldn't ask a friend to do it
I've recently received a Letter Before Claim after performing a similar favour

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post Sat, 19 Jan 2019 - 10:41
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QUOTE (Redivi @ Sat, 19 Jan 2019 - 09:12) *
Does the incorrect VRN exist ?


When ive put the incorrect VRM into the DVLA website, nothing comes up.
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post Sat, 19 Jan 2019 - 11:07
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QUOTE (Redivi @ Sat, 19 Jan 2019 - 09:12) *
I certainly wouldn't ask a friend to do it
I've recently received a Letter Before Claim after performing a similar favour

Oh yes, I remember reading this. Never let a good deed go unpunished as they say!
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post Sat, 19 Jan 2019 - 11:19
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Ok. Thanks for all your replies and help so far.

To try and summarise. The options I have are

1. To ignore and hope that the NTK never arrives considering the incorrect VRM on the ticket. If it does arrive then it will not match the Ticket given so possibly void?

2. Appeal online on Day 26 using the incorrect VRM and using the letter composed by Cabbyman.

Both have pros and cons from what I can see. Would appreciate a definitive answer if possible.

Thanks

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post Sat, 19 Jan 2019 - 11:28
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After the arguments, and despite what I said, then wait for the incorrect NTK. You then claim that it is delivered out of time as there was no matching NTD.
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post Sat, 19 Jan 2019 - 11:31
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Await the NtK. Then there should be an easy win at POPLA with, inter alia, no matching NtD.


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post Sat, 19 Jan 2019 - 14:16
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Waiting for the NTK is the best option.
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post Sat, 19 Jan 2019 - 17:40
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Thanks for the replies.

The concensus seems to be to wait for NtK.

The issue I think I have with that is that if they apply for the Keepers address from the DVLA and it comes back no such VRM (as the incorrect VRM is on the issued ticket) then they may review the photographic evidence they have (which I've seen) and revise the VRM which they apply for.
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post Sat, 19 Jan 2019 - 17:42
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In which case, the NtD VRM doesn't match the NtK VRM. Job done, case won!


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post Sat, 19 Jan 2019 - 20:28
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ok. How long legally do they have to contact the keeper before it is null and void
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post Sat, 19 Jan 2019 - 20:37
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56 days from the parking date.
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post Sun, 20 Jan 2019 - 10:58
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QUOTE (iangill @ Sat, 19 Jan 2019 - 21:28) *
ok. How long legally do they have to contact the keeper before it is null and void

Wrong way to look at it

They have 56 days from day of parking event, otherwise the KEEPER cannot be held liable. The invoice remains valid, but only against the driver.
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post Sun, 20 Jan 2019 - 18:12
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and they have 6 years to go after the driver - if they know who they are.
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post Thu, 7 Feb 2019 - 09:06
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Hello all, it has now been 24 days since my friend received a parking ticket as explained in my first post. I just wanted to check that the advice of waiting for the NtK still stands?

Thanks
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post Thu, 7 Feb 2019 - 09:14
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Yes
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post Wed, 20 Feb 2019 - 18:55
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UPDATE.....

My friend received the NTK today. I would upload it but apparently there is not enough space for my attachment???

Any help appreciated
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post Wed, 20 Feb 2019 - 19:15
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Host it on a photo sharing website and then post the link here instead.

As it tells you in the FAQs.


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iangill
post Wed, 20 Feb 2019 - 19:25
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ok, here's the letter. As my previous post explains, the VRM on the parking ticket does not match the VRM on the NtK.

https://ibb.co/xDgTQXj

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post Wed, 20 Feb 2019 - 21:52
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First Pofa fail is the fact that the details of the windscreen ticket do not match the details on the NTK.

Next 8 (2) (f) is not there

No period of parking
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