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DancingDad
Posted on: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 - 15:10


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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Tue, 16 Jul 2019 - 10:40) *
Breathalysed back in the day with the old tube of crystals and inflating the bag, more than 30 years ago! (Yes I was clear).

My wake up call was also around 30 years ago, when I passed a breathalyser (electronic one)
Had been stopped, sat in back of police car, blow into this etc.
Rapid mental arithmetic on what I actually had been drinking and the reality of losing licence, job, etc etc loomed.
Nobody was more surprised then me when I passed.
Never been close to driving over the limit since.
Or breathalysed for that matter but still will not indulge.
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DancingDad
Posted on: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 - 15:05


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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Tue, 16 Jul 2019 - 15:19) *
QUOTE (DancingDad @ Tue, 16 Jul 2019 - 10:22) *
He's got wheels on the carriageway adjacent to the DK.... and yes, I meant 27 smile.gif

Maybe, I would argue the CEO needs to take better pictures than that to prove the point.

And you expect the CEO not to?
We are only looking at one picture here.
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Posted on: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 - 15:03


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QUOTE (stamfordman @ Tue, 16 Jul 2019 - 15:02) *
It's touching how much faith people have in the police. I'll keep an open mind.

It isn't a case of faith in the police, it is the knowledge that when a cop tells you to do something, there are repercussions that may be unpleasant if you refuse.
It doesn't matter if the cop is totally wrong, which they were not here, if chummy refuses, the situation can only be expected to escalate.

The classic can be seen on any of the cop docusoaps with drunken teens.....
Move on please
F*** Off I got a right to be here, it's public property
If you do not move on I will arrest you
B****cks I'm not moving
….
It's always going to end in tears with chummy in the back of the Black Maria
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Posted on: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 - 09:25


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QUOTE (Mr Meldrew @ Mon, 15 Jul 2019 - 13:52) *
QUOTE (southpaw82 @ Mon, 15 Jul 2019 - 13:41) *
QUOTE (Mr Meldrew @ Mon, 15 Jul 2019 - 12:55) *
As I said, it makes me sad to see coppers brawling in the street in the handling of a parking violation, which may or not have been avoidable (given the man’s obstinacy) if the constable had remained within his essential objective to remove the car and requested a tow truck, or simply given the man a warning that it was within his power to do so. I remain unconvinced that the constable had reason to believe it was practical, sensible and proportionate in all the circumstances to arrest the man at that time.

Have you ever been a police officer?

No, but as an ordinary observer of the events available I remain unconvinced that the constable had reason to believe it was practical, sensible and proportionate in all the circumstances to arrest the man at that time.


It doesn't matter if you are a cop, a teacher, a parent or whoever, when you exert your authority and ask (tell) someone to do something and spell out the repercussions, it matters not how trivial the issue was, it becomes the refusal to obey that has to be tackled.

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Posted on: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 - 09:22


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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Mon, 15 Jul 2019 - 21:04) *
QUOTE (DancingDad @ Mon, 15 Jul 2019 - 20:46) *
26, adjacent to a dropped kerb and the DYls as well.

I assume you mean 27, but I don't see how "above" can be the same as "adjacent". Code 62 specifically states "on or over", the same wording is not used for code 27.

If the driver gets a 27, I'd take it all the way to the tribunal laugh.gif


He's got wheels on the carriageway adjacent to the DK.... and yes, I meant 27 smile.gif
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Posted on: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 - 19:46


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26, adjacent to a dropped kerb and the DYls as well.
CEO is spoilt for choice.
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Posted on: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 - 18:23


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QUOTE (P91 @ Fri, 12 Jul 2019 - 18:43) *
Was there any delay in sending in the pass certificate? It's correct that it expires if not submitted (within 2 years I thought)

I wouldn't even go there.
Apart from the almost certain impossibility of proving sending it some 20 years ago, it does not address the central (IMO) question.
That is, how or why did DVLA send the guy a full licence 20 years back if he was not entitled and had not submitted all relevant paperwork?
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Posted on: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 - 18:15


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QUOTE (bama @ Fri, 12 Jul 2019 - 18:12) *
……….. the point was the otiose reference to the H/C



Why otiose Bama ?
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Posted on: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 - 10:08


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QUOTE (southpaw82 @ Fri, 12 Jul 2019 - 10:40) *
QUOTE (rd250dx @ Fri, 12 Jul 2019 - 10:11) *
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so it would appear that you don't have to send in your old licence to renew it until the new one arrives, which is what i said.

No, you encouraged people to tell a deliberate lie. That involves the commission of several criminal offences. Don’t do it.


There is a major difference between advising people of the DVLA guide which says you don't need to send your old licence back until the new one arrives and advising people to lie and say they had lost their old one.

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Posted on: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 - 22:33


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QUOTE (roythebus @ Thu, 11 Jul 2019 - 17:53) *
Racist police possibly?

The cop who was doing the talking looked like he had quite a good suntan himself..racist ????


QUOTE (bama @ Thu, 11 Jul 2019 - 20:38) *
end of the day
"guy is parked within the 10m distance from a corner that is specified within Highway Code as Do Not Park."
is meaningless.
'breaking' the H/C is not an offence. H/C can be used in evidence when an RTA offense is prosecuted, on its own it means nothing (and you will struggle to find that 10 metre stuff in the RTAs)


I don't need to find the 10m stuff within RTA (and not looking cos I know it is not there), the unnecessary obstruction is in there.
Was it unnecessary obstruction?
Yes, very close to a corner, totally against guidance as contained within HC is all the occifer has to say in court.
Unless the driver has a clever solicitor who can somehow persuade the court that the HC guidance is irrelevant and that there was either no obstruction or that it was necessary, the court will accept it.
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DancingDad
Posted on: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 - 15:21


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Have DVLA explained how they issued you with a full driving licence if you didn't submit the relevant pass documentation all those years ago ?
They obviously did issue one.
Which I have to assume was against a pass certificate being submitted and accepted.
To me what they are actually saying is "We have no record so you have to suffer" while they should be saying "Our records seem to be in error, no problem, we will sort it..."
One has to assume you provided the required to get the full licence, I don't know of any other way?

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QUOTE (big_mac @ Thu, 11 Jul 2019 - 14:51) *
QUOTE (DancingDad @ Thu, 11 Jul 2019 - 12:06) *
Asked 17 times and other reports say warned that he would be arrested 5 times.

There is video on the Daily Mail page, but (without the ads)
https://www.facebook.com/abuisa.alcrazzy/vi...62560912280131/
Presumably, that's not all of it - it's much less than 17 times, but still quite a few.
Didn't bother counting...the cop was clear, calm, gave the choice many times, move the vehicle or get arrested, no brainer to me, yes orficer, moving it now.
But guy wanted to keep arguing the toss..... ooops.

End of the day, guy is parked within the 10m distance from a corner that is specified within Highway Code as Do Not Park.
And is shown in the BB booklet (which some councils try to use for justifying a PCN...wrongly)
That is all cops need to justify Unnecessary Obstruction.
Arrest is down to guy not cooperating with what seems to be an reasonable request despite multiple warnings.
Anything after that is simply whether cops used unreasonable force to subdue someone resisting arrest.
To me would have been reasonable to kick three bells outa him, if someone does not come quietly, WTF do they expect.
(I do accept that had they used excessive force, questions should be asked, just am stuck in the 70s with Gene Hunt)
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Posted on: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 - 11:06


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Asked 17 times and other reports say warned that he would be arrested 5 times.
Then resisted arrest.
What do people expect the police to do in that situation ?
TBH I simply see it as failing the attitude test in a big way and self inflicted.
No sympathy.
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Posted on: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 - 12:00


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Has to report to her insurance company and claim via works insurance
The latter will not affect her NCD, what it does to the work's dunno, don't care.
Personally, I would not bother with trying direct to the third party insurance
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Posted on: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 - 11:12


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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Sun, 7 Jul 2019 - 18:40) *
It's funny because I've just had a FOI refusal notice from a council: I asked for some parking enforcement related stuff, and they refused it on the basis of the exemption under section 43(2) of the FOI Act, i.e. that it would prejudice the council's commercial interests because it might reduce their revenues. You couldn't make it up.


ICO ???
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Posted on: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 - 20:41


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Mis sold or bad description is actually something Paypal is quite good at refunds for.
Certainly worth a punt on it.
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Posted on: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 - 10:46


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QUOTE (focusrs @ Sun, 23 Jun 2019 - 14:45) *
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QUOTE (DancingDad @ Sun, 23 Jun 2019 - 08:27) *
Seems like a silly letter to request, I suppose so the interviewer has something positive (or negative) to file as "evidence" for their decision.
It seems to be asking to get a reply based on "I learnt my lesson, drive like a granny now, keep a copy of the highway code with me and read it every evening..."
What isn't required is a description of the laser jammer now fitted to evade speed traps, that you double check for police or Enforcement Officers before parking unlawfully or that your car has a straight through exhaust system and remapped to the eyeballs.

I thought he should write something along those lines, I am just looking for some confirmation that something like that seems like the right thing to write.
………...



Don't know about specifics for this but if it were me, I would be first and foremost stating that the offences and losing licence within the new driver's period was a major wake up call.
And that it has changed your whole attitude towards driving, that you no longer believe that you are above the law or willing to risk your safety or others.
Details if relevant and true like having a black box insurance that enables you to keep track and modify behavior, that you have revised the Highway Code etc probably would help.
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Posted on: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 - 07:27


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Seems like a silly letter to request, I suppose so the interviewer has something positive (or negative) to file as "evidence" for their decision.
It seems to be asking to get a reply based on "I learnt my lesson, drive like a granny now, keep a copy of the highway code with me and read it every evening..."
What isn't required is a description of the laser jammer now fitted to evade speed traps, that you double check for police or Enforcement Officers before parking unlawfully or that your car has a straight through exhaust system and remapped to the eyeballs.
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Posted on: Sat, 22 Jun 2019 - 13:47


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Not sure what we can advise except talk to Lancaster nicely and see if anything can be dredged back.
The basic story seems to be:-
You failed to provide proof of No claims
You made a false disclosure on the No Claims
You failed to agree anything with the insurers re this despite them seeming to be willing to adjust.
They cancelled and are now charging all they can. (Check the T&Cs incase they are overcharging)
And when you look for new insurance, a cancellation (which is a question that will be asked) is going to cost.
If you can provide proof of the medical issues, they may accept mitigation and be willing to cancel the cancellation and some costs.
But you will need to beg and plead.
Bear in mind that though you seem to have reasons, you are in the wrong here, discuss it with them on that basis.


Insurance is on the car BTW, not whether or not you are able to drive it.
Hindsight says you should have taken the car off road, declared it SORN and cancelled the insurance...then started afresh when recovered enough to drive.
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Posted on: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 - 09:57


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Seems the sting in the tail would seem to be that the cyclist is liable for costs.
Though the body of the story puts it around 20K not the 100k headline grabber.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-71...ked-London.html
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Posted on: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 - 13:02


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QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Thu, 20 Jun 2019 - 13:30) *
......45(2) of RTRA 1984

2) An order under this section may designate a parking place for use (either at all times or at times specified in the order) ………...



It depends on what weight or interpretation is put on the bit in brackets.
The adjudicator was obviously of the opinion that it is only a designated parking place during the hours of operation.
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Posted on: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 - 08:45


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Agree with the need to see the TRO but TBH, not sure what it will say that may aid.
But won't without reading it.

As others have said, I am firmly convinced that a parking bay does not magically disappear outside of regulated hours, it simply becomes an unregulated parking place but is still a designated parking place by virtue of the definition within the regs.
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Posted on: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 - 08:32


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QUOTE (666 @ Wed, 19 Jun 2019 - 17:16) *
......….Giving them the idea that they have ROW or priority "once established on the road", seems to me to be contrary to that, and fraught with danger.


Can't say I've heard the phrase "established on the road" before but it seems to come back to something I was told by my instructor when learning to drive.
Basically, they may have no right to be crossing there but you have no right to run them over if they are.
To me it comes down to simple common sense.
Doesn't matter if I am walking or driving, if there is someone in my way, I have no right to ram them.
In that respect, they have right of way even if this is not sanctioned in law.
It does come down to whether or not the rider (in this case) had chance to stop or avoid.
That comes down to the facts of the case.
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Posted on: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 - 22:43


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Uhmm.
At first glance seems bonkers.
But....she is reported to have been crossing with other pedestrians and he is reported as having sounded his air horn.
So maybe she wasn't totally unaware and he was sounding horn instead of braking.
And 50/50 on payout so her actions have reduced the award.

Must admit, phone zombie pedestrians are a nightmare at times, not hit one yet but the way they ignore everything except their screen, it is only a matter of time.
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Posted on: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 - 15:24


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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Tue, 18 Jun 2019 - 14:54) *
QUOTE (h3lp @ Tue, 18 Jun 2019 - 12:10) *
yeh when i used to get tickets on my leased van, the lease company would send me the ticket details (and charge £20 for the privilege). I would then get the charge reversed once I won the appeal.

hopefully a letter to the "head of parking" will stop us needing to pursue it that far?

Regardless, you need to get in touch with the leasing company ahead of time. Some leasing companies are known to simply pay the penalty and then demand that you pay, rather than following the proper procedure to transfer liability. You need to ensure that if an NtO is served on the leasing company, they appeal it on the basis that they are a leasing company and the vehicle is on lease to your friend. Providing the leasing company does this, the NtO will be cancelled and a new NtO will be sent to your friend, which eliminates the risk of the leasing company paying or messing up the procedure.

And make sure that the leasing company has the right details for your mate, current address etc.

Right load of muppets these lot are, can't answer the question so just trot out the same company line...
If this goes to adjudication, sting them for costs, even if they enter a Do not Contest.
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