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PCN Rochdale Council, Appeals Process
Youngdand
post Tue, 16 Jul 2019 - 13:03
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Hi,

I received a PCN for parking on a residential street.

I was passing through Hollingworth Lake, on what was the hottest day of the year so far with my family which includes 2 young children. We were returning from a trip to Hebden Bridge.

One of my children was car sick, and after trying to find a space in all of the carparks, eventually had to park in MILBURY DRIVE. We nipped to the toilets at the lake, which were a couple of minutes walk away, cleaned him up, and bought water from the kiosk, and returned to the car. we were in hollingworth lake for a total of 20 minutes, which included driving round to find a space, parking, cleaning up the child and the car and leaving.

I appealed with a nicely worded letter explaining this, together with google timeline images showing me driving around hollingworth lake, in and out of the car parks, and showing that were were only at the location for 20 minutes in total.

I have received a rejection to this today, advising of 2 options. to pay the reduced amount or to await a notice to keeper, which will allow me to escalate the appeal, but lose the ability to pay the discounted rate.

They have also included the pictures, and the small signs are at least 2 meters up on the lamposts.

Is this really the case, that you cannot escalate an appeal until the discount has expired?





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post Thu, 12 Sep 2019 - 09:29
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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Wed, 11 Sep 2019 - 15:49) *
Couple of things:

1) Is there a time-plate associated with the single yellow line? The council's first photo suggests there might be, we need you to find out. Ideally we need a photo of the sign.

2) It looks like the Notice of Rejection might have been emailed to you, have you received a copy in the post as well?


Below is a link to the sign on the lampposts along the road. These are approx 2 meters up on each post along the street, but there was no lamppost at the section of road in which i was parked.

https://imgur.com/kKk0ADX

I have not received anything via post as yet, however that's not to say i wont be. If nothing comes via post what does this mean?

Thanks,

Dan.




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cp8759
post Thu, 12 Sep 2019 - 10:44
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QUOTE (Youngdand @ Thu, 12 Sep 2019 - 10:29) *
I have not received anything via post as yet, however that's not to say i wont be. If nothing comes via post what does this mean?

Have you checked that your V5C address is correct and up to date?


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Youngdand
post Thu, 12 Sep 2019 - 12:36
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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Thu, 12 Sep 2019 - 11:44) *
QUOTE (Youngdand @ Thu, 12 Sep 2019 - 10:29) *
I have not received anything via post as yet, however that's not to say i wont be. If nothing comes via post what does this mean?

Have you checked that your V5C address is correct and up to date?


Hi Yes, I receieved the NTO, but just meant that i had only received a response to the apeal via email.

Unfortunately, i know they have the right address on file as i received a speeding fine though last week. (silly boy)
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Youngdand
post Fri, 13 Sep 2019 - 07:35
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Just a quick update, i have now also received the posted rejection notice.
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post Fri, 13 Sep 2019 - 17:48
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Well as they've not re-offered the discount there's nothing to be lost in appealing, I don't think the outcome is a sure victory because an adjudicator might take a purposive view of the restrictions but we might as well try. For now I would register the appeal on the tribunal website and write "detailed grounds to follow" in the reasons box, this will force the council to show its hand first. The reason for the appeal will be "the alleged contravention did not occur".

The tribunal will in due course email you with a deadline for you to submit your full appeal wording, let us know what the date is.


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