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post Mon, 19 Feb 2018 - 18:10
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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - December 2017
Date of the NIP: - 43 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 47 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A690
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 3
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons -

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - No
Is the NIP addressed to you personally? - Yes
Although you are not the Registered Keeper, were you the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 18:08:31 +0000

NIP issued 18/01/18 received 22/01/18. I returned the nip on 19/02/18. Will I be considered late in replying and receive a court summons?

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post Mon, 19 Feb 2018 - 18:16
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QUOTE (Rrysinc @ Mon, 19 Feb 2018 - 18:10) *
NIP issued 18/01/18 received 22/01/18. I returned the nip on 19/02/18. Will I be considered late in replying and receive a court summons?

Why reply so late? Anyway, they will almost certainly accept the nomination and continue as normal.

What's 'normal' will depend on the speed/limit. (If indeed it is a speeding allegation)


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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Rrysinc
post Mon, 19 Feb 2018 - 18:20
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I was (badly) advised to wait as long as possible to return the form. Put date in my diary but now I’m thinking that date if issue is what I should have used to determine when 28 days start.

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post Mon, 19 Feb 2018 - 18:29
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Usually no advantage in returning so late. Chances are they'll simply process as normal.


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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post Mon, 19 Feb 2018 - 18:30
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In very rare circumstances, replying at the end of the 28 days can help to cause a timeout (they have 6 months from the date of offence to instigate proceedings).
Technically you have 28 days beginning with the date of service (deemed to be 2 working days after posting unless the contrary is proven) for the required information to be served on the police (delivered). Your response should have been served by yesterday (which would mean Friday as service by post is not deemed to have been effected on non-working days).

However, as you are still some way off the 6 months, I would be extremely surprised if they prosecuted you for being a few days late - assuming that your response contains all the required information, is delivered shortly, and does not include anything liable to rattle their cage.

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post Wed, 21 Feb 2018 - 07:21
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Thank you. I’m hoping I receive a response soon to put my mind at rest.
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