Salford - PCN for overstaying |
Salford - PCN for overstaying |
Fri, 18 May 2018 - 11:14
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Member Group: Members Posts: 384 Joined: 22 May 2011 Member No.: 46,879 |
I received a PCN on Cleminson street for overstaying. It was a 3 hours parking section and I got a ticket 10 minutes after the 3 hours elapsed. I wonder whether is still possible to use the grace period as a ground for appeal?
Furthermore, some pictures shows sign being slightly covered by leafs, is this a reasonable ground? I just asked them for evidence in my informal appeal and here is what I got back I have also attached files containing the map of the area(TRO) TRO-MAP |
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Fri, 18 May 2018 - 11:29
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Member Group: Members Posts: 26,655 Joined: 6 Nov 2014 Member No.: 74,048 |
grace period is still in play until the expiry of the ten minutes not during the 10th minute so should not have issued a PCN til start of the 11th minute
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Fri, 18 May 2018 - 11:36
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Member Group: Members Posts: 4,126 Joined: 31 Jan 2018 Member No.: 96,238 |
Thread needs moving to the Council forum
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Fri, 18 May 2018 - 11:41
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,195 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
grace period is still in play until the expiry of the ten minutes not during the 10th minute so should not have issued a PCN til start of the 11th minute Without the seconds we don't know either way whether its within 10m or outside. -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Fri, 18 May 2018 - 12:04
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Member Group: Members Posts: 384 Joined: 22 May 2011 Member No.: 46,879 |
@redivi I think I posted it in the council forum
There are no seconds so how can we use grace period as a ground? I can't find my PCN, it was all soggy and I left it to dry but forgot where it was. I'll try to find it later on when I get back home. |
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Fri, 18 May 2018 - 13:36
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Member Group: Members Posts: 25,726 Joined: 28 Jun 2010 From: Area 51 Member No.: 38,559 |
Touch and go on the grace period but IMO it should count.
CEO observed the vehicle and issued inside the 10 minutes (should have waited a minute) so served the PCN before they could lawfully and before they could be sure it had expired. But, an adjudicator being fussy may take the view that as the vehicle was there at 11.13 it was there at least a minute before therefore on balance, lawfully served. Sign is clear enough. Let's see PCN and challenge so we can see if anything else comes forward. If you do decide to go all the way, I would opt for decision on papers. I would not want an adjudicator asking me "What time did you park?" |
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