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Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 23:23
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Member Group: Members Posts: 25,726 Joined: 28 Jun 2010 From: Area 51 Member No.: 38,559 |
Charge notice on windscreen.
Anyone got any knowledge on this PPC? What their form is for progressing enforcement? |
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Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 23:23
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Sat, 12 Jan 2019 - 00:21
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Member Group: Members Posts: 6,898 Joined: 15 Dec 2007 From: South of John O'Groats, north of Cape Town. Member No.: 16,066 |
Is this a live ticket? Their website says nothing, not even a hint at which ADR they may use, but I have discovered that they are IPC so the secondary appeal will be a waste of time.
If it is a ticket, please post, redacted of identifying detail but leaving dates and location. The usual routine with a NtD is to appeal as keeper to arrive with them 2 days before the expiry of the appeal period so that they have information about the RK that they don't have to pay £2.50 for. Hopefully, they respond without applying to DVLA which gives you another winning PoFA point. -------------------- Cabbyman 11 PPCs 0
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Sat, 12 Jan 2019 - 00:39
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Member Group: Members Posts: 25,726 Joined: 28 Jun 2010 From: Area 51 Member No.: 38,559 |
Live ticket.
Driver got it tonight (Last night, 11th Jan) Will scan and post tomorrow. Location on ticket. Cliveland Street But was in a car park.... Birmingham. Back of ticket does say IPC. |
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Sat, 12 Jan 2019 - 00:44
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Member Group: Members Posts: 6,898 Joined: 15 Dec 2007 From: South of John O'Groats, north of Cape Town. Member No.: 16,066 |
Yeah. It's the usual 'appeal as keeper to arrive on day 26, then ignore' routine.
Post a draft appeal here for approval or search some Ostell drafts. Others may elucidate further....tomorow! Night, night! -------------------- Cabbyman 11 PPCs 0
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Sat, 12 Jan 2019 - 08:52
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Member Group: Members Posts: 25,726 Joined: 28 Jun 2010 From: Area 51 Member No.: 38,559 |
Looks like this is the car park.
And that I'll need pictures of signs https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.4879937,-...3312!8i6656 |
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Sat, 12 Jan 2019 - 09:09
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,503 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
Used to be totally ignorable but Gallstones seem to be picking these up? Here.
Ex-clamper - here. Was trading as sole trader - 'Walton Wilkins T/A Premier Parking Logistics' but also has company registration here. Worth scrutinizing signs and paperwork. This post has been edited by Jlc: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 - 09:12 -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Mon, 23 Nov 2020 - 15:59
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Member Group: Members Posts: 25,726 Joined: 28 Jun 2010 From: Area 51 Member No.: 38,559 |
Resurrecting an old thread.
Seems that DCB legal are now involved. Way back when PCN was found, sent a brief email to Premier saying that the driver had found a PCN but had experienced difficulties with the machine so had been unable to pay...sent as the keeper. No response. No further letters or emails or notices received until Received a Letter Before Action from DCB dated 12/10/20...didn't arrive till a week or so later MEa Culpa...did nothing with it Today received a claim form from County Court Business Centre. I know I have to acknowledge the claim and not to put anything in the defence box. I have no particulars on the claim except what is on the claim/LBA holding the keeper liable as keeper or driver. What else please guys? |
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Mon, 23 Nov 2020 - 17:42
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17,088 Joined: 8 Mar 2013 Member No.: 60,457 |
So was the ticket appealed by the keeper? What was the result? Has a Notice to Keeper been received? Have the DVLA been contacted to see if keeper details were requested
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Mon, 23 Nov 2020 - 20:23
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Member Group: Members Posts: 25,726 Joined: 28 Jun 2010 From: Area 51 Member No.: 38,559 |
Ticket was appealed by email by keeper and identified as keeper
No response No NTK Received Nowt recieved until LBA And now Court Papers |
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Mon, 23 Nov 2020 - 21:04
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,503 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
So no keeper liability for starters.
How much are they claiming? -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Mon, 23 Nov 2020 - 22:30
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Member Group: Members Posts: 25,726 Joined: 28 Jun 2010 From: Area 51 Member No.: 38,559 |
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Mon, 23 Nov 2020 - 22:42
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17,088 Joined: 8 Mar 2013 Member No.: 60,457 |
What's the particulars of Claim?
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Mon, 23 Nov 2020 - 22:57
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Member Group: Members Posts: 25,726 Joined: 28 Jun 2010 From: Area 51 Member No.: 38,559 |
What's the particulars of Claim? Paraphrasing, I'll sanitise and scan if you need. Defendant is indebted to claimant for parking charge issued to vehicle XX at Cliveland Street PCN details are Date and Number PCN issued on private land owned or managed by Claimant Vehicle parked in breach of T&C signs (the contract) thus incurring the PCN The driver agreed to pay within 28 days but did not. Defendant is liable as driver or keeper Despite requests the PCN is outstanding The contract entitles the claimant to damages and the claimant costs £160 being the total of the PCNs and damages plus interest at 8% per annum from the date hereof (think that is the claim date) plus court fees and costs. This is the car park BTW https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.4880004,-...6384!8i8192 I thought I had some piccies of the signs but struggling to find them now. |
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Tue, 24 Nov 2020 - 10:13
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Member Group: Members Posts: 1,885 Joined: 16 Jul 2015 Member No.: 78,368 |
Looks like they`ve added the usual £60 for debt collecting. This should be challenged in your defence.
Have you sent a SAR for all documents they will rely on for this case in court? You may not get these back in time though. This post has been edited by Dave65: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 - 10:14 |
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Sat, 21 Aug 2021 - 11:20
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Member Group: Members Posts: 25,726 Joined: 28 Jun 2010 From: Area 51 Member No.: 38,559 |
Just to close this off.
Court hearing was due mid September, telephone hearing. Received letter from DBC last week dropping the case. Copy of notice to court attached. Nothing from Court yet but I'll check online next week to make sure it has been processed. Would love to be able to point out something clever that prompted their withdrawal but I done very little bar acknowledging court notices in good time and submitting a defence which was basically POFA doesn't apply so no keeper liability, no proof of driver, no evidence, only an NTK and inflated costs. I'll take the win. |
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Sat, 21 Aug 2021 - 12:37
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,503 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
Nice one DD.
This post has been edited by Jlc: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 - 12:37 -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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