Labour MP accused of PCOJ, Threads merged |
Labour MP accused of PCOJ, Threads merged |
Wed, 25 Jul 2018 - 18:34
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And another one
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/0...course-justice/ A Labour whip and ally of Jeremy Corbyn has been charged with perverting the course of justice after allegations that she tried to give away speeding points a month after her election. Fiona Onasanya, the Labour MP for Peterborough, appeared at Westminster magistrates court two weeks ago alongside her brother, Festus. The former solicitor kept news of her arrest and charge secret while serving as a Labour whip. She is due back in court next month. Solicitors and MP's seem to have issues with speeding tickets, this one is both !!! |
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Wed, 25 Jul 2018 - 18:34
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Fri, 16 Nov 2018 - 14:17
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All above, nothing torn at all Peter.....
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Fri, 16 Nov 2018 - 15:25
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All above, nothing torn at all Peter..... If his evidence was of no relevance he wouldn’t have been called. -------------------- Moderator
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Thu, 22 Nov 2018 - 14:28
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https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/fion..._hp_ref=uk-news
So that clears up the defence strategy (which was kind of predictable once the brother plead guilty), can't see that ending well....... -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Thu, 22 Nov 2018 - 16:46
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Jury (of 11, one discharged earlier in the week due to ill health) retired at 10:58 to consider their verdict. Will now return tomorrow to continue their deliberations. They were directed thast their verdict had to be unanimous.
-------------------- The accident was caused by cockpit thrombosis - a dangerous clot between seatback and steering wheel ...
1. Read this first 2. Nip Wizard Parking tickets - council - 0, Rallyman - 1 |
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Fri, 23 Nov 2018 - 11:07
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So now she's claiming she didn't fill in the NiP at all? The reports of the prosecution evidence suggest it was returned (so presumably signed) by her so one wonders why the identity of the person who returned the NiP hasn't been brought up before.
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Fri, 23 Nov 2018 - 11:43
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Maybe it 'appeared to be signed by her', her defence seems to rest on admitting the S172 offence "left the NIP at her mother's house in Cambridge for whoever had borrowed her Nissan Micra to fill in." as "she had assumed she was in Westminster at the time of the speeding offence" even though we know that likely isn't the case and it appears to be that she was driving.
-------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Fri, 23 Nov 2018 - 12:29
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I'm a little surprised it's taking the jury so long to reach a verdict, given that it basically comes down to whether they think her story is credible or not.
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Fri, 23 Nov 2018 - 13:26
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Maybe it 'appeared to be signed by her', her defence seems to rest on admitting the S172 offence "left the NIP at her mother's house in Cambridge for whoever had borrowed her Nissan Micra to fill in." as "she had assumed she was in Westminster at the time of the speeding offence" even though we know that likely isn't the case and it appears to be that she was driving. Once would have thought it wouldn't be that hard to forensically analyse the signature. -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Fri, 23 Nov 2018 - 14:18
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Judge is currently asking for a unanimous verdict, may be just one hold out, I predict a guilty from what we’ve been able to see of the case (noting it’s not all).
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Fri, 23 Nov 2018 - 16:27
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I'm predicting a Not Guilty
Her version sounds unlikely but, as we've seen so many examples of incompetent S172 responses, it's not impossible Silly question - is it legal to comment on a case before the jury decides ? |
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Fri, 23 Nov 2018 - 20:54
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I'm predicting a Not Guilty Her version sounds unlikely but, as we've seen so many examples of incompetent S172 responses, it's not impossible ……... Even if found not guilty, she has basically admitted treating a legal notice with contempt, not being bothered to follow legal requirements, either being so disorganised that she hasn't a clue what day is which or at best, not checking her diary. And trusting her brother, whom her own defense slates.... and this is a trusted MP in a responsible position ? If she were mine I would not be voting for her next time round. |
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Sun, 25 Nov 2018 - 06:32
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Ate on Friday the judge dropped it to a majority verdict....... -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Mon, 26 Nov 2018 - 13:37
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Jury failed to reach a verdict, Retrial to start 11 Dec. Sentencing of her brother delayed to match.
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Mon, 26 Nov 2018 - 15:21
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Mon, 26 Nov 2018 - 18:13
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Looks like she’s double booked for Dec 11th now, can she send a Russian chap to do the Commons vote for her instead?
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Mon, 26 Nov 2018 - 18:25
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If the CPS are willing to go to retrial it’s probably not good news as it gives them the chance to better present a case that rebuts her defence while her defence as I see it will have stay pretty much unchanged.
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Wed, 28 Nov 2018 - 14:40
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Agree
They now know to investigate whose handwriting is on the form |
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Wed, 28 Nov 2018 - 16:02
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I'd have expected that to be covered anyway......
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Wed, 28 Nov 2018 - 18:49
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I'd have expected that to be covered anyway...... Still, they can pre-emptively deal with her defence points. -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Thu, 29 Nov 2018 - 00:16
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