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i_should_coco
post Sun, 12 Aug 2018 - 19:05
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Hi all,

I'm looking for some advice/clarification.

At the end of July I was stopped for speeding in France. I was told my speed was recorded at 189km/h in a 130km/h limit, but it looks like there is some leeway applied and the they use 179km/h. My licence was confiscated at the roadside and I was told I could not drive in France for 72hrs and that a longer ban would follow (3-6 months), along with details of the further ban and fine. (I was not fined at the roadside.)

I've not received anything yet, so it's unclear exactly where I stand. i.e. if I am currently banned, or whether there needs to be a court case first? I'm not currently planning on driving in France in the near future, but do have a trip to Germany planned in September so will need my licence which they still have.

Can you advise the best option? Get a replacement licence from DVLA?

Thanks.

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post Tue, 4 Dec 2018 - 18:42
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QUOTE (KH_ @ Tue, 4 Dec 2018 - 18:25) *
I seem to recall from another poster, quite a while ago admittedly, that letters should also be in the language of the recipient. Is that correct?
If the entirety of the letter is french then there may be something that could be done.

Others will know better than me, I don't have the best memory...

Yes, there are ECHR Article 6 requirements that may apply to this proceeding, but this would have to be argued in a court somewhere. Unless the OP is planning to fight this ticket in a French court, arguing with the Gendarme Nationale on the side of an Autoroute that this particular correspondence really should have been in English is going to be too late.

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i_should_coco
post Tue, 4 Dec 2018 - 22:40
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QUOTE (baroudeur @ Tue, 4 Dec 2018 - 17:25) *
QUOTE (i_should_coco @ Tue, 4 Dec 2018 - 13:17) *
QUOTE (Redivi @ Tue, 4 Dec 2018 - 14:14) *
It doesn't look a bad deal to close the subject

What's the situation with the DVLA ?

If it's issued a new licence, you'll have to destroy the old one when the French police return it


I didn't get a replacement in the end.


So, my assessment of the situation in post 3 was correct.

Yep! Thanks. :-)


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Did you get your licence returned by the French Authorities? I suspect not as normally it must be collected in person.

Nope

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Do you intend to pay? Whilst not condoning non-payment of penalties it is unlikely that anything will happen other than, perhaps, a few letters chasing the debt. However, returning to France and being stopped risks the outstanding penalty being noted with serious consequences.

Payment from sterling accounts isn't made easy by the methods listed .

Edit: Check with DVLA and see if your licence was sent to them.


Yes, I will pay, it's not worth the risk of hassle to me. I believe my bank can issue a cheque in Euros (albeit, I'm sure they wil charge me for the privilege), so will pursue that in the first instance.

Thanks.
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baroudeur
post Wed, 5 Dec 2018 - 11:03
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QUOTE (i_should_coco @ Tue, 4 Dec 2018 - 22:40) *
QUOTE (baroudeur @ Tue, 4 Dec 2018 - 17:25) *
QUOTE (i_should_coco @ Tue, 4 Dec 2018 - 13:17) *
QUOTE (Redivi @ Tue, 4 Dec 2018 - 14:14) *
It doesn't look a bad deal to close the subject

What's the situation with the DVLA ?

If it's issued a new licence, you'll have to destroy the old one when the French police return it


I didn't get a replacement in the end.


So, my assessment of the situation in post 3 was correct.

Yep! Thanks. :-)


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Did you get your licence returned by the French Authorities? I suspect not as normally it must be collected in person.

Nope

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Do you intend to pay? Whilst not condoning non-payment of penalties it is unlikely that anything will happen other than, perhaps, a few letters chasing the debt. However, returning to France and being stopped risks the outstanding penalty being noted with serious consequences.

Payment from sterling accounts isn't made easy by the methods listed .

Edit: Check with DVLA and see if your licence was sent to them.


Yes, I will pay, it's not worth the risk of hassle to me. I believe my bank can issue a cheque in Euros (albeit, I'm sure they wil charge me for the privilege), so will pursue that in the first instance.

Thanks.


It appears that you do not have a licence if you didn't have it returned by the French authorities nor obtained a replacement from DVLA If so you could try contacting the payment address to find out if they can help locate it.
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i_should_coco
post Wed, 5 Dec 2018 - 12:07
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Do you mean I don't have a licence in France?

If I don't get it back, I will get a replacement from the DVLA.
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baroudeur
post Fri, 7 Dec 2018 - 12:51
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QUOTE (i_should_coco @ Wed, 5 Dec 2018 - 12:07) *
Do you mean I don't have a licence in France?

If I don't get it back, I will get a replacement from the DVLA.


In theory. the driver should reclaim the licence in person which is simple for a French resident.

Check with DVLA as the French authorities may have sent it to them or, alternatively, write to the address on the original paperwork and ask them to return it if they still have it.

Please keep us up to date as the information may be useful in future.
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