101mph on m5 |
Helping the motorist get justice 
Helping the motorist get justice
101mph on m5 |
 Fri, 12 Oct 2018 - 17:40
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 12 Oct 2018 Member No.: 100,365  |
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes Were you driving? - Yes Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England It told me some questions were missing but I’ve copied this bit anyway Was I driving too fast, yes, was I doing 101mph, south of Birmingham about 100 mile away from home, probably. Did I have any excuse, nope I just hate motorways and wanted to get to my destination ASAP, So what’s next, I’m a single earner, 2 car family, 2 young kids, ok salary, we are getting by, could I survive without driving and taking the ban. Probably, could I handle a massive fine financially no, I’ve not long got the 4 year mark on my previous 3 point, 36 in a 30mph. So what are my options.... |
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Fri, 12 Oct 2018 - 18:42
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 Member Group: Members Posts: 56,260 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
For 101 the case will be decided in court, 6 points is very likley although a short ban isn’t impossible you’d have to work quite hard to upset the bench enough to award one. Fine is income related and circa 1 weeks take home pay (salary less tax and NI only) plus £85 costs and a surcharge of 10% (£30 minimum).
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Fri, 12 Oct 2018 - 18:49
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 12 Oct 2018 Member No.: 100,365 |
Thanks for the quick reply, do you mean an actual court visit (sorry to be dense)
so a ban is unlikely then, I have to drive from Bristol to Redditch once a month, if I got a 56 day ban which I've read, it wouldn't be the end of the world to miss a couple of visits, I think the more concerning issue is being banned over Christmas. Just a case of being honest, sincre, apoglising and respectful should be enough then to avoid that (hpoefully) |
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Fri, 12 Oct 2018 - 18:53
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 Member Group: Members Posts: 41,580 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
They will probably issue a postal plea option first (Single Justice Procedure) - if they want to consider a ban they may request your presence.
It wouldn't be 56 days - at most 2-3 weeks. But it may be many months before you hear. (They have 6 months to prosecute and often leave it that long!) -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Sat, 20 Oct 2018 - 13:02
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 12 Oct 2018 Member No.: 100,365 |
Update
Sent letter back next day via recorded....today reiceved a letter Notice of Intended Prosecution The camera ticket office will prepare your file and it will be referred to the Magistrates Court, You will receive a Single Justice Procedure Notice in due course Assuming this is completely standard? |
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Sat, 20 Oct 2018 - 13:19
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,580 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
Yup.
-------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Tue, 23 Oct 2018 - 13:39
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Member Group: Members Posts: 617 Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Member No.: 6,174 |
It is the Daily Wail, but most online papers have reported it. 5 point and £390, however the £390 may be income related.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-62...e-hospital.html Not sure if trying to get to hospital would be seen as good or bad mitigating circumstances. |
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Tue, 23 Oct 2018 - 14:19
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,260 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
As that would normally be a slam dunk 6 points it appears they took it as mitigating. That said I think a not guilty or SRNTE plea would have had some legs. I don’t think it’s really that helpful to the OP though.
-------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Tue, 23 Oct 2018 - 22:30
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 28 Aug 2010 Member No.: 40,122 |
They can ban you or take pity on you. I know someone who was lucky and they felt sorry for her. She was crying in court and took pity. It's quite serious
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