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The Rookie
post Wed, 13 Jun 2018 - 09:48
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Maybe rather than keep starting posts we can put them into one as a warning to others

Two speeding events, not his van honest guvnor, jailed for 6 months.


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Andy Roo (ex of this parish)

Chris Huhne and the ex Mrs Huhne

And a future volunteer it seems

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post Wed, 22 Mar 2023 - 09:06
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Two women have escaped going to jail as single mums due to the impact on their children.

Women on 9 points caught speeding, names a non existent man and then names a friend who agrees to 'take the points' in exchange for cash and weed. The friend doesn't actually drive (may ring alarm bells - you think?). Sentenced to 6 and 4 months respectively suspended for 12 months. The driver also got her 6 months ban she was trying to avoid (nice touch).


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post Thu, 23 Mar 2023 - 10:32
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Today's offering is a baby cop, his mum and stepdad.
Cop clocked speeding, stepdad agreed to be nominated and took the points
Cop then boasted to his work colleagues...which has got to be worth some sort of Darwin type award?
12 months suspended for 12 months each... including mum.
Presumably won't be a cop for much longer either...though you never know in this day and age.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midla...19-mum-26536474
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post Thu, 23 Mar 2023 - 11:30
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The sentencing is all over the place without apparent logic, clearly the draft sentencing guidelines are desperately needed!
https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/public...n-consultation/


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post Mon, 5 Jun 2023 - 11:07
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So after a dry spell we have two for the price of one!

Case 1 - Driver 1 and registered keeper gave the details of a passing acquaintance as the driver, twice.
Case 2 - Driver 2 and registered keeper named an innocent party (getting the details and probably the suggestion to 'lie' from her friend who was the driver/RK for case one).

Both provided 'burner phones' to try and cover up their crimes.

Driver 1 sentenced to 18 months, Driver 2 to 12 months suspended for 18. (plus 200 hours of unpaid work).

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/...course-justice/

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post Fri, 7 Jul 2023 - 09:11
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A councillor from Kirklees named a fictitious person as driver instead of her partner who was actually driving, she then went on to list the car on ebay to support a pretence the car was for sale at the time and to support her 'misnamed driver' nomination.

39 in a 30 so turned a SAC into a prison sentence for both of them - 14 weeks for her and 12 weeks for him.

https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news...-speeding-fine/


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post Sat, 8 Jul 2023 - 15:45
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These cases always seem to involve speeds which would have been eligible for a SAC, which makes their actions all the more inexplicable.
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QUOTE (Ocelot @ Sat, 8 Jul 2023 - 16:45) *
These cases always seem to involve speeds which would have been eligible for a SAC, which makes their actions all the more inexplicable.

Easily explicable. Stupidity.
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post Tue, 25 Jul 2023 - 21:01
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https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-ne...ts-son-27390176

The headline here is slightly misleading as no points were in play.

Dad took SAC for his 17 year old son. But before he'd even taken the SAC, the son was involved in a crash which killed two people. Dad still turned up to the SAC!

Now dad is in prison for four months.

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The report appears to be a bigger fabrication than the s. 172 response.


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post Thu, 10 Aug 2023 - 06:59
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Father jailed but son went onto be killed


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Didn't result in PCoJ but I reckon that was luck
Man caught obscuring number plate with leaves and speeding
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12...ed-cameras.html
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post Thu, 5 Oct 2023 - 14:23
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QUOTE (Irksome @ Thu, 10 Aug 2023 - 07:59) *

it was the sons passengers who died not the son
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post Tue, 21 Nov 2023 - 10:21
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After a bit of a dry spell...

A Tenby Barber convicted of two PCoJ offences for naming an innocent party as driver and arranging for the post to that person to be completed as if they were admitting driving. The innocent party lost their licence and job due to this abusive behaviour, apparently his name and details were circulated on Tik-Tok and used as a 'NIP farm' so I think we can expect a few more.

The accused maintained a not guilty approach until it got to court.
Sentence was 8 months (sounds a bit light really under the circumstances) and a years supervision plus 16 months disqualified from driving.
https://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/news/239...course-justice/





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post Thu, 21 Dec 2023 - 20:08
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And the back office spend some time in jail too.

BBC News - Police staff jailed for deleting speeding offences

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post Tue, 16 Jan 2024 - 13:23
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53 year old women replied to an S172 request stating it wasn't her car and she was at work at the time.

Changed her plates and added stickers to the car as part of her 'cunning plan'.

Maintained her innocence for a long time (even after sentencing for the underlying speeding offence) before finally pleading guilty to PCoJ.

6 months suspended for 12 months plus 20 days 'work'.
https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/news/2...peeding-points/


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post Tue, 6 Feb 2024 - 08:34
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Serving police officer leant her car to her unlicensed boyfriend who was caught speeding and with officers abandoning the chase due to his dangerous driving. She then claimed the car was stolen at the time and also tried to tamper with computer records to cover this up. On top of this Weed was found in her house when it was searched as part of the enquiry.

This on top of a previous camera case where she named her brother as driver as she was on 6 points.

After long protesting her innocence she has now plead guilty to the main charges and sentenced to 18 months in prison suspended for 18 months plus 100hrs unpaid work.


https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news...-stolen-4505750


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post Tue, 12 Mar 2024 - 09:27
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A Southampton man caught speeding 4 times changed his number plate in order to try and claim his car had been cloned, GPS data from his car and also location data from his phone suggested that his car was in fact at the 'scene of the crime'.

Plead guilty and sentenced to 12 months in prison, also received a 6 months (or 18 months, story not clear) driving disqualification.

https://uknip.co.uk/news/uk/breaking/man-ja...eeding-tickets/


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post Tue, 12 Mar 2024 - 14:33
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He was handed a 12-month prison sentence and will also face a six-month driving disqualification upon his release.


Apparently a 6 month ban to run from when he is released. Unusually this report is quite clear if you read the words. And presumably if you don't assume that sentences must necessarily run concurrently.

N.B. an 18 month ban from date of sentencing would effectively be a 15 month ban from when he is released on licence.


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