Name on NIP is 'wrong', Threads merged x3 |
Name on NIP is 'wrong', Threads merged x3 |
Tue, 14 Mar 2017 - 17:32
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Member Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 17 Jul 2011 Member No.: 48,310 |
Got NIP in post.
Addressed to my business's trading name with no persons name on it. ie "Greenshoots Gardening" as opposed to "David Smith". It's sole trader business as opposed to a limited company. Do I need to respond?? It says in big capitals : To be completed by the addressee only....I'm not the addressee. Can I get an employee to reply for the business?? If I don't respond can they issue a s172 against me personally [even though I'm not named on the NIP]???? |
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Fri, 28 Apr 2017 - 16:01
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Member Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 17 Jul 2011 Member No.: 48,310 |
1. If one returns a completed NIP AFTER the s172 deadline, but BEFORE they have a chance to issue a summons....can they still issue a s172 summons [even though they now have the information requested]??
2. Are they likely to do so...?? 3. ....even for only a week late?? |
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Fri, 28 Apr 2017 - 16:04
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,505 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
If the offence occurs then they could. (Late is late)
Without context it's hard to say much further. ('Late' replies might be accepted but possibly not if a 'time out' was being architected for example) This post has been edited by Jlc: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 - 16:09 -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Fri, 28 Apr 2017 - 16:05
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,505 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
Why did you start 2 threads (the questions are clearly related)?
So the matter may go straight to summons if they can't issue the CoFP in time. It has been known for CoFP's to be issued (28 days) so they expire after the 6 months, but unusual. This post has been edited by Jlc: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 - 16:08 -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Fri, 28 Apr 2017 - 16:11
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Member Group: Members Posts: 3,816 Joined: 20 Dec 2008 Member No.: 24,962 |
s172 offence is complete 28 days after Service.
Have you received a Summons? What offences are listed? |
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Fri, 28 Apr 2017 - 16:13
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,198 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
1. Yes
2. Maybe 3. Probably not unless you were very close to and trying to engineer a timeout -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
S172's Rookies 1-0 Kent Council PCN's Rookies 1-0 Warwick Rookies 1-0 Birmingham PPC PCN's Rookies 10-0 PPC's |
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Fri, 28 Apr 2017 - 16:15
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Member Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 17 Jul 2011 Member No.: 48,310 |
Thanks for your reply...
Two threads ...because I don't have s172 issues on this NIP [yet] and I thought it would just muddy the waters. CoFP....if they issue it within a few days of receipt of NIP then it would expire BEFORE the six months [but possibly close enough to expiry date to not be able to issue a summons before the six months are up...???]....so I guess I'm hoping that they send a COFP, and I ask for a court hearing and they can't get a summons done in time.... |
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Fri, 28 Apr 2017 - 16:17
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13,572 Joined: 28 Mar 2010 Member No.: 36,528 |
1. Yes
2. That depends on the circumstances. A phone call letting them know it is coming may help, and a reasonable explanation of why it is late -------------------- |
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Fri, 28 Apr 2017 - 16:18
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Member Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 17 Jul 2011 Member No.: 48,310 |
Thanks everyone.
I asked the question as a possible part of engineering a timeout but it seems that the consensus is that it's a high risk/suicidal strategy!!!! |
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Fri, 28 Apr 2017 - 16:22
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Member Group: Life Member Posts: 24,213 Joined: 9 Sep 2004 From: Reading Member No.: 1,624 |
Presumably both of the new threads you've started are related to this case?
-------------------- Andy
Some people think that I make them feel stupid. To be fair, they deserve most of the credit. |
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Fri, 28 Apr 2017 - 16:25
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,505 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
They can commence proceedings potentially in time. It would best best in one thread as the waters are muddied...
-------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Fri, 28 Apr 2017 - 16:29
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,505 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
Committing a separate offence (with a higher penalty) wouldn't appear to be the best move.
-------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Tue, 16 Jan 2018 - 13:58
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Member Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 17 Jul 2011 Member No.: 48,310 |
Sorted.......got it to time out. No summons or anything like that.
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