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And you think we have it tough!, 15mph over - 30 day suspension
The Rookie
post Mon, 30 May 2022 - 11:14
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North Carolina law, one speeding ticket at over 55mph and more than 15mph over the posted limit and your licence is suspended for 30 days!(so perversely 41 in a 25mph limit, no suspension, but 71 in a 55 is...)

As NC is in the 46 State compact that means a suspension if you are caught in any of those 46 states. It's an administrative process by the DMV once the allegation is accepted/you're found guilty, so likely going to see a lot of relatively low level cases heading for court in an effort to avoid the suspension.

https://eu.citizen-times.com/story/news/202...ses/9731118002/


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post Fri, 1 Jul 2022 - 09:44
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QUOTE (Churchmouse @ Thu, 30 Jun 2022 - 08:33) *
You're now deliberately missing the point.

How? They have a rule that you must not drive at such a speed that you could not stop within the clear space you can see in front of you. That seems very sensible to me, and I think it's the rule we should adopt in this country as well.


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post Sat, 2 Jul 2022 - 05:40
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Well doing so would clearly be driving at a standard below that of a careful and competent driver, so we already do.


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post Mon, 4 Jul 2022 - 17:18
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Sat, 2 Jul 2022 - 06:40) *
Well doing so would clearly be driving at a standard below that of a careful and competent driver, so we already do.

What I intended to convey is that that is the only rule we should have, and the 70 mph statutory limit should be abolished. Apologies if this did not come across clearly.


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post Thu, 7 Jul 2022 - 08:53
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It didn't (not to me anyway!).

Not sure what is cause and what is effect, but high speeds on the A-bahns is only possible due to lower traffic density (most the 'unrestricted ones' have temporary limit gantries for when it is busy - even thought its strange to be 'limited' to 130kph!) and good lane discipline - which we don't have. As such I don't think it's realistic, although a limit rise to 80 I think is perfectly feasible.


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post Thu, 7 Jul 2022 - 10:22
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Thu, 7 Jul 2022 - 09:53) *
It didn't (not to me anyway!).

Not sure what is cause and what is effect, but high speeds on the A-bahns is only possible due to lower traffic density (most the 'unrestricted ones' have temporary limit gantries for when it is busy - even thought its strange to be 'limited' to 130kph!) and good lane discipline - which we don't have. As such I don't think it's realistic, although a limit rise to 80 I think is perfectly feasible.

In the middle of the night speeds of 130 on the M25 would be perfectly feasible, and we have the gantries for imposing limits when there's traffic.


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post Thu, 7 Jul 2022 - 11:24
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Thu, 7 Jul 2022 - 09:53) *
It didn't (not to me anyway!).

Not sure what is cause and what is effect, but high speeds on the A-bahns is only possible due to lower traffic density (most the 'unrestricted ones' have temporary limit gantries for when it is busy - even thought its strange to be 'limited' to 130kph!) and good lane discipline - which we don't have. As such I don't think it's realistic, although a limit rise to 80 I think is perfectly feasible.

In the middle of the night speeds of 130 on the M25 would be perfectly feasible, and we have the gantries for imposing limits when there's traffic.

Not sure how that covers the bumbling idiots with no lane discipline?


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post Thu, 7 Jul 2022 - 11:50
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Thu, 7 Jul 2022 - 12:24) *
Not sure how that covers the bumbling idiots with no lane discipline?

To be honest I find lane discipline in Germany appalling. The attitude there seems to be that if you're indicating you have right of way to change lane.

At in the middle of the night when the road is empty, lane discipline doesn't matter so much. Especially on a 4 / 5 lane section, you can have one or two empty lanes as a buffer, just in case.


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post Sun, 10 Jul 2022 - 14:43
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I find most the bumbling idiots on a 4 lane are in lane 3, so short of undertaking in lane 1 not possible.

Always found German lane discipline to be very good, especially when ‘making progress’.


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post Sun, 10 Jul 2022 - 18:03
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Sun, 10 Jul 2022 - 15:43) *
Always found German lane discipline to be very good, especially when ‘making progress’.

When making progress sure. But as a general rule the attitude seems to be that someone indicating has right of way to change lanes.


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post Sun, 10 Jul 2022 - 18:53
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Belgians seem to be worse - going through Belgium on a bike trip to Germany in 2019 had 3 separate incidents when in the outside lane of the motorway overtaking Belgian cars (slowly due to traffic) they would indicate and then start moving into my lane while I was level with them.


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post Sun, 10 Jul 2022 - 18:55
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Try the A5 in Frankfurt, it is pretty much unlimited with 4 lanes right in right through Frankfurt, which is unheard of other cities (IIRC) usually they have speed limit.

And they have short section of overhead wire for lorries to be connected as electric lorry.

Although they do impose speed limit when the lane discipline is bit bad, but it happened once for me.
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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Mon, 4 Jul 2022 - 18:18) *
QUOTE (The Rookie @ Sat, 2 Jul 2022 - 06:40) *
Well doing so would clearly be driving at a standard below that of a careful and competent driver, so we already do.

What I intended to convey is that that is the only rule we should have, and the 70 mph statutory limit should be abolished. Apologies if this did not come across clearly.


You need to pop over to the 20 mph speed limits in Wales thread.

Where I live in south Wales there are numerous dual carriageways where over the last few year the have reduced the limits to 50mph. the M4 motorway for an 8 mile stretch is now 50 and they have just passed legislation to make all 30 mph roads 20mph by default in built up areas.

I think the government trend is certainly downwards not upwards.
If they could i'm sure that our daft policy makers in Wales would try and bring back the Locomotive act of 1865 where someone had to carry a red flag in from of horseless carriages whilst observing the speed linit of 4mph in the country and 2mph in towns! rolleyes.gif

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post Wed, 13 Jul 2022 - 14:39
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QUOTE (mr tickle @ Wed, 13 Jul 2022 - 09:10) *
If they could i'm sure that our daft policy makers in Wales would try and bring back the Locomotive act of 1865 where someone had to carry a red flag in from of horseless carriages whilst observing the speed linit of 4mph in the country and 2mph in towns! rolleyes.gif

Well you get who you vote for. A road near my house that has been subject of countless complaints due to the unreasonable 30 mph limit has recently gone up to 40. I might try and see if there's a press release I can send to Brake, just to make their blood boil.


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