Forgot to display bluebadge |
Forgot to display bluebadge |
Wed, 23 Oct 2019 - 07:04
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 23 Oct 2019 Member No.: 106,303 |
Good Morning Everyone,
The driver went to Thegym at Derby and parked in a blue-badge bay and forgot to display their badge (I know silly) The driver remembered around 3mins later after getting ready in the changing rooms but by this time it was to late and they had a ticket/card stating Vehicle control had made a note of the vehicle (sorry I don't have the card to hand to give the full details) My question is the driver just best off paying the charge once it comes through the post? Shall the driver email the email address on the card pictures of their bluebadge and hope it helps? Whats the best plan of action. If the driver has to pay the that's fine it's the drivers mistake at end of day but if they dont have too and there's an easy way round it that advice be great. Cheers everyone. Alan. This post has been edited by Alan86: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 - 08:53 |
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Wed, 23 Oct 2019 - 08:33
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,200 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
Neither, go back to the Gym and ask them to cancel for a genuine visitor, if needed remind them of the equality act and the need to make a reasonable adjustment, legally they need to provide a disabled bay whether you have a BB or not.
Meantime as you will deal with this as 'the keeper', EDIT that post so as not to give away what 'the driver' did, refer to them only as the driver, no I, they, she, the dog. NEVER EVER phone a private parking company. -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Wed, 23 Oct 2019 - 08:41
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Member Group: Members Posts: 28,687 Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Member No.: 15,642 |
No such thing as a "blue badge bay" on private land, and by requirnig one they fall foul of those theyre required to provide spaces for that eitehr cannot eget a blue badge or simply dont want one. Thats discrimination. Suggest to the gym that they whitelist your vehicle, as otherwise they are in breach of the Equality Act 2010.
No, this is VCS. Noone bloody pays them. They are WOEFUL What you do is 1) EDIT YOUR POST, NOW. No arguments. THE DRIVER parked and did not display a blue badge. THE DRIVER went inside and remembered within 3 monutes but... and so on. NOONE is told, here or otherwise, who is the driver. YOU are the keeper, YOU will be handling this as the keeper. There is not an easy route as such - this company does do court, not for every ticket however. So you 1) Appeal that they failed to meet the mandatory grace periods at the start, required by the IPC Code of Practice. 1b) add that the driver held a valid blue badge but was retrieving it. As the driver has protected requirements, use of the space was authorised regardless of the display and failing to permit this is a breach of the Equality Act 2010, for which they and their employer are jointly and severally liable. 2) If this is the "not a PCN" notice to driver, then they will have failed to comply with POFA. Theyve infact been told to NOT use these "not a PCN" - so what do you have? Then you ignroe debt colelctors, ignore the IAS service (you will lose) and see if they try court. Dont pay them, please. Whiel youc an afford to, not everynoe can, and these people are scum. |
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Wed, 30 Oct 2019 - 13:37
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 23 Oct 2019 Member No.: 106,303 |
Carried out my appeal last night for the PCN that came through the post. Does anyone know how long it normally takes for a reply? What happens if it's rejected?
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Wed, 30 Oct 2019 - 14:25
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Member Group: Members Posts: 28,687 Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Member No.: 15,642 |
Yes, we do. You would as well - if you had read many other threads
Search the forum for VCS threads Read ,and understand the parasites youre dealing with. They WILL reject your appeal. Thats a given. |
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Fri, 8 Nov 2019 - 18:05
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 23 Oct 2019 Member No.: 106,303 |
Hi all, i received the below email today on my appeal is it normal and where do i go from here? Sorry i cant find any other posts like it.
We refer to correspondence received from you concerning the above numbered Charge Notice. Please note that responsibility for this Charge lies with the driver of the vehicle at the time the parking contravention was observed. However, it appears from what you have stated in your appeal that you were not the driver on the date in question. In order for us to process your appeal correctly, please follow the instructions below: 1. Notify the driver of the vehicle that they will need to appeal to us directly, including their FULL NAME (Forename and Surname) and a valid FULL SERVICEABLE ADDRESS within 14 days. 2. If you are representing the driver we require a signed and dated statement from the driver of the vehicle confirming that you are authorised to appeal on his/her behalf; this needs to be an original signature and not a photocopy or a stamp. The statement MUST contain the drivers FULL NAME (Forename and Surname) and a valid FULL SERVICEABLE ADDRESS. Please ensure that correspondence is submitted through the portal www.myparkingcharge.co.uk in order to correctly adhere with the appeals process. OR 3. Pay the PCN. Payments can be made online at www.myparkingcharge.co.uk by following the links for "Pay Now", or over the phone by calling 0845 226 9138 and using a valid Credit or Debit Card to make payment. It is your responsibility to ensure that payment is received within our office by the date specified. As a gesture of goodwill we have placed the charge on hold for an additional period of 14 Days to enable one of the above actions to be complied with. We are willing to re-offer you the original discounted charge of £60 as full and final settlement of this Notice, if |
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Fri, 8 Nov 2019 - 18:28
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Member Group: Members Posts: 28,687 Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Member No.: 15,642 |
Ignore. They're trying to find out the drivers identity a they can't hold the keeper liable.
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Sat, 9 Nov 2019 - 05:04
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,200 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
Did you go to the gym at all as mentioned in the very first reply?
-------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Sat, 9 Nov 2019 - 09:29
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 23 Oct 2019 Member No.: 106,303 |
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Sat, 9 Nov 2019 - 10:04
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Member Group: Members Posts: 277 Joined: 29 Aug 2017 Member No.: 93,755 |
Hmm is the gym on fscebook, or trip advisor?
A legall honest and truthful account on either of these of what has happened ( advising BB holders to be careful when parking there etc )sometimes produces a quick response from them. |
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Sat, 9 Nov 2019 - 10:28
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 23 Oct 2019 Member No.: 106,303 |
Hmm is the gym on fscebook, or trip advisor? A legall honest and truthful account on either of these of what has happened ( advising BB holders to be careful when parking there etc )sometimes produces a quick response from them. Yeah they are on facebook its thegym group so its in like a littoe retail park with a few other shops around it. Whats the best advice about the drivers details they are chasing? |
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Sat, 9 Nov 2019 - 12:51
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Member Group: Members Posts: 542 Joined: 26 Sep 2012 Member No.: 57,365 |
Does the car park belong to the gym/is it the gyms car park?
Is the parking company acting for and on behalf of the gym? |
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Sat, 9 Nov 2019 - 13:04
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 23 Oct 2019 Member No.: 106,303 |
Does the car park belong to the gym/is it the gyms car park? Is the parking company acting for and on behalf of the gym? No the car park is nothing to do with the gym. The gym is just in a retail park and the car park is ran by a private parking company. The retail park is called Southgate Retail park at Derby if that helps? |
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Sat, 9 Nov 2019 - 13:56
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Member Group: Members Posts: 542 Joined: 26 Sep 2012 Member No.: 57,365 |
Is this the place: https://www.cspretail.com/properties/southgate-retail-park/
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Sat, 9 Nov 2019 - 15:00
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 23 Oct 2019 Member No.: 106,303 |
Yeah thats the place
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Sat, 9 Nov 2019 - 15:57
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Member Group: Members Posts: 542 Joined: 26 Sep 2012 Member No.: 57,365 |
What should happen, its that you should tell the parking company that an occupant of the vehicle had a disability as described under the equality act, add the haggling charge must now be cancelled.
If they do things right the charge should be cancelled. However doing things right doesn't make money. telling the parking company the above, even though it doesn't have much hope of success will help with future complaints and or actions you will need to take later This post has been edited by Half_way: Sun, 10 Nov 2019 - 19:01 |
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Sun, 10 Nov 2019 - 18:36
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 23 Oct 2019 Member No.: 106,303 |
Sounds like I'll have to pay up
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Sun, 10 Nov 2019 - 19:00
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Member Group: Members Posts: 542 Joined: 26 Sep 2012 Member No.: 57,365 |
Sounds like I'll have to pay up Where are you getting that strange idea from?? Tell the parking company an occupant of the vehicle has/had a disability ( protected characteristic) as outlined - they will reject, do not challenge this further to IAS Then get in touch with CPS retail ( link in previous post) tell them that an occupant of the vehicle has /had a disability ( protected characteristic as covered by the equality act) and as such the driver used the reasonable adjustments made towards people with disability's ( disabled bay) however despite informing CPS retails agents of this, they are still pursuing thi matter , which could potentially be seen as a breach of the equality act by CPS retail through the actions of their agents This post has been edited by Half_way: Sun, 10 Nov 2019 - 19:06 |
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Sun, 10 Nov 2019 - 20:59
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 23 Oct 2019 Member No.: 106,303 |
Ive emailed them this evening, so lets see what happens if anything?
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Mon, 11 Nov 2019 - 12:34
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Member Group: Members Posts: 28,687 Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Member No.: 15,642 |
Menawhile - get out your thread and READ on the scam youre involved in
You will see their usual behaviour is unethical and in some cases has been criminal. So dont loe heart. |
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