Man jailed after blaming speeding ticket on fictional Frenchman, From BBC News |
Man jailed after blaming speeding ticket on fictional Frenchman, From BBC News |
Wed, 9 May 2018 - 22:08
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Link to original story: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-44058417
Summary: A motorist from Oxfordshire has been jailed for 12 months for perverting the course of justice, as well as being fined £1600 and disqualified for 3 months (increased from 6 points and an £800 fine on appeal!) after inventing a fictional Frenchman and Scot to try and get away with being caught doing 35 in a 30 in Hampshire in his ex-wife's car. |
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Thu, 10 May 2018 - 02:29
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,200 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
It never ceases to amaze me how stupid some people can be.
Perhaps we should have a “I was happy to go to jail to avoid a speeding rap” thread for these cases. -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Thu, 10 May 2018 - 08:30
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Richly deserved
He could have easily landed his ex-wife with the FTF prosecution Sheer stupidity According to the picture of the Freelander, he was travelling at 35 mph Unless he already had 9 points and no lifelines left, he spent more time on his scheme than if he'd taken the course that would have been offered The report that he was given 6 points and £800 for the original offence, increased on appeal to 3 months disqualification/ £1600, is confusing The appeal result exceeds the maximum fine for the speeding offence and he was never asked about the car on the first occasion for it to be FTF It looks more like an FTF for when he tried the routine again after he was caught speeding in his Audi |
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Thu, 10 May 2018 - 10:00
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,200 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
As is common in newspaper reports, maybe the fine and all the costs were lumped together?
-------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Thu, 10 May 2018 - 10:17
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Link to original story: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-44058417 Summary: A motorist from Oxfordshire has been jailed for 12 months for perverting the course of justice, as well as being fined £1600 and disqualified for 3 months (increased from 6 points and an £800 fine on appeal!) after inventing a fictional Frenchman and Scot to try and get away with being caught doing 35 in a 30 in Hampshire in his ex-wife's car. is it wrong that I find this story hilarious? |
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Thu, 10 May 2018 - 10:23
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is it wrong that I find this story hilarious? Only to the extent that it seems that he's financially supporting both his ex-wife and current girlfriend, and supposedly they could both lose their homes as a result of this tit being sent to prison. -------------------- Regards,
Fredd __________________________________________________________________________
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Thu, 10 May 2018 - 10:59
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is it wrong that I find this story hilarious? Only to the extent that it seems that he's financially supporting both his ex-wife and current girlfriend, and supposedly they could both lose their homes as a result of this tit being sent to prison. now I feel bad (for them) |
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Thu, 10 May 2018 - 11:32
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His lies would have unravelled much sooner if the police had considered the likelihood that a Frenchman would :
1 Be seen driving a Land Rover 2 Drive at 35 mph This post has been edited by Redivi: Thu, 10 May 2018 - 11:33 |
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Thu, 10 May 2018 - 20:15
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His lies would have unravelled much sooner if the police had considered the likelihood that a Frenchman would : 1 Be seen driving a Land Rover 2 Drive at 35 mph Ah to be a fly on the wall during the phone call to the Departmental Gendarmerie. "Hello? Do you speak English? I'm calling from Hampshire Safety Camera Office. I'm looking to contact a driver who was caught driving in a Land Rover at 35mph here." "*drag on cigarette* Casse-toi!" |
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Thu, 10 May 2018 - 23:24
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As is common in newspaper reports, maybe the fine and all the costs were lumped together? How did he get convicted of speeding if he did not admit driving--or FtF if he never received a s.172 request in his own name? All I see in the press report is a lot of PCoJ. --Churchmouse |
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Fri, 11 May 2018 - 00:11
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That's why I think it was an S172 prosecution for the later Audi incident when he was the registered keeper, not for the Land Rover borrowed from his ex-wife
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Tue, 15 May 2018 - 07:47
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And another.....
https://www.cumbriacrack.com/2018/05/09/dri...rse-of-justice/ -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Tue, 15 May 2018 - 18:45
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"What may have been seen as an easy option in the past or something people just do like an exaggerated house insurance claim is simply not true anymore."
Weird thing for the police to say. When was naming a false driver to plod "something people just do"? |
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Tue, 15 May 2018 - 20:44
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"What may have been seen as an easy option in the past or something people just do like an exaggerated house insurance claim is simply not true anymore." Weird thing for the police to say. When was naming a false driver to plod "something people just do"? I thought it was odd for him to say "and engaging in what is nothing short of a criminal activity to cover their tracks", surely speeding is already nothing short of a criminal activity? -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Wed, 16 May 2018 - 10:11
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I thought it was odd for him to say "and engaging in what is nothing short of a criminal activity to cover their tracks", surely speeding is already nothing short of a criminal activity? True, however that is how most people view speeding offences - as something akin to a council parking ticket, not a real criminal offence. -------------------- Regards,
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Thu, 17 May 2018 - 01:06
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
I thought it was odd for him to say "and engaging in what is nothing short of a criminal activity to cover their tracks", surely speeding is already nothing short of a criminal activity? True, however that is how most people view speeding offences - as something akin to a council parking ticket, not a real criminal offence. I don't disagree (even the criminal courts distinguish regulatory offences from offences designed to punish a moral wrong), but as a senior police officer maybe he should have chosen his words more carefully. -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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