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kobokobo
post Mon, 11 Jun 2018 - 12:44
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Hey I have attached a NPC letter that the driver received for allegedly parking for just over an hour in the middle of the night at an APNR monitored car park.

Since it is a short amount of time should the driver appeal that they were just looking for a space and trying to read the signs in the dark?
I cannot seem to get the attachment of the letter to work. I've uploaded here https://imgur.com/a/2oaJyKv
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post Mon, 11 Jun 2018 - 12:44
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nosferatu1001
post Mon, 11 Jun 2018 - 13:10
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EDIT YOUR POST

The driver MUST NOT be identified
They must be called "the driver". Nothing else.

Dont lie.
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post Mon, 11 Jun 2018 - 13:17
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QUOTE (kobokobo @ Mon, 11 Jun 2018 - 13:44) *
Since it is a short amount of time should the keeper appeal that the driver was just looking for a space and trying to read the signs in the dark?

Was that true then? (An hour is probably pushing it)

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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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post Mon, 11 Jun 2018 - 22:52
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QUOTE (nosferatu1001 @ Mon, 11 Jun 2018 - 14:10) *
EDIT YOUR POST

The driver MUST NOT be identified
They must be called "the driver". Nothing else.

Dont lie.


Sorry I am not sure where I identified myself I blocked out the name on the picture?


@JLC Because it was night time and there was no lighting in the car park it was impossible to see the signs so I did spend some time looking, I left promptly after.

It sounds like I have no grounds and I should just pay my parking ticket? Is there no angle I can try and appeal on? Seems unfair to me but, to be honest I didn't even realise there was such a thing as parking fines at night time. Maybe I have just been lucky.
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post Tue, 12 Jun 2018 - 06:37
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ANPR never sleeps - the parking conditions are on the signage. But that signage is not visible then there’s no contract.

We generally don’t tell people to pay...

NCP aren’t that litigious but appear to have been dabbling recently with a claim or two.


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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post Tue, 12 Jun 2018 - 07:55
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QUOTE (kobokobo @ Mon, 11 Jun 2018 - 23:52) *
Sorry I am not sure where I identified myself I blocked out the name on the picture?


In the text of your your initial post, avoid phrases like "I"/"we"/"my wife"/"my son" did X; replace any such occurrences with "the driver did X"
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nosferatu1001
post Tue, 12 Jun 2018 - 08:39
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SO were the signs unlit? SImple yes or no.
Thats your best angle.
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kobokobo
post Thu, 14 Jun 2018 - 01:01
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They were unlit, so should the driver appeal with that? Since the sings were unlit there is no way they could have known it was paid parking?

It is best to appeal right and not just ignore?
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post Thu, 14 Jun 2018 - 05:40
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Edit your first post, the postal PCN goes to the keeper as they don’t know who the driver was.


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post Thu, 14 Jun 2018 - 07:43
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The driver does literally NOTHING with this
The KEEPEr appeals.
Thats why wee have said to appeal, why every thread says to appeal, etc...
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