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[NIP Wizard] NIP Received 25 days after alleged offence
Arthurskargill
post Mon, 10 Jun 2019 - 17:11
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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - May 2019
Date of the NIP: - 23 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 25 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - East Horndon at 1700-2300 on Tuesday, 14 May 2019
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Recorded
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - After attending a classic car pub meet I made an error of judgement and did a large wheel spin exiting the pub car park onto the highway. The NIP Application for name and address of driver turned up 25 days after the offence with a Royal Mail "signed for" bar coded sticker on but was just put through the letter box without being signed for. Attached to the NIP via a paper clip was a typed letter stating that although it had exceeded the 14 days "in certain cases where we are not aware of an offence at the time, the law provides an allowance us to still investigate and prosecute as long as we send the NIPs out promptly within 14 days of the date we became aware of the alleged offence"
I am the registered keeper of the vehicle and the NIP did come direct to me first, as yet i have done nothing but will return my details as requested.
Any advice on how to proceed would be appreciated.

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - No
Was there a valid reason for the NIP's late arrival? - No

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The first NIP to the Registered Keeper must arrive within 14 days unless there is a valid reason why that was not possible, for example a recent change of details.

    This link will take you to the advice provided by the RAC's legal team.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 17:11:42 +0000

This post has been edited by Arthurskargill: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 - 17:41
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Ocelot
post Wed, 12 Jun 2019 - 18:21
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Indeed, it is either 14 days from the day following the date of the alleged offence (assuming a written NIP is required), or, if the Police weren't aware of of the incident at the time, the 14 day rule doesn't have to be followed.
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post Wed, 12 Jun 2019 - 18:55
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QUOTE (Ocelot @ Wed, 12 Jun 2019 - 19:21) *
or, if the Police weren't aware of of the incident at the time, the 14 day rule doesn't have to be followed.


Lets say that another driver has done something that has aggrieved me. I decide to report him to the police, but I would prefer that he did not have the benefit of a fresh recollection of events when he becomes aware of the possibility of enforcement action, so I delay reporting it to the police. Does the 14 day rule simply not apply if the police were not made aware of the allegation in time to serve a NIP within the 14 days? What does the legislation actually say?

QUOTE (Logician @ Wed, 12 Jun 2019 - 19:44) *
QUOTE (Ocelot @ Wed, 12 Jun 2019 - 18:21) *
Indeed, it is either 14 days from the day following the date of the alleged offence (assuming a written NIP is required), or, if the Police weren't aware of of the incident at the time, the 14 day rule doesn't have to be followed.


Really? So, with the old type of speed camera, the police have 14 days from when they process the film - interesting!


Where does he say it's 14 days from when they find out?


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Ocelot
post Fri, 14 Jun 2019 - 12:50
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QUOTE (andy_foster @ Wed, 12 Jun 2019 - 19:55) *
QUOTE (Ocelot @ Wed, 12 Jun 2019 - 19:21) *
or, if the Police weren't aware of of the incident at the time, the 14 day rule doesn't have to be followed.


Lets say that another driver has done something that has aggrieved me. I decide to report him to the police, but I would prefer that he did not have the benefit of a fresh recollection of events when he becomes aware of the possibility of enforcement action, so I delay reporting it to the police. Does the 14 day rule simply not apply if the police were not made aware of the allegation in time to serve a NIP within the 14 days? What does the legislation actually say?



That's what I inferred from this thread, which seems to suggest so http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showto...06334&st=20
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