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Sat, 31 Oct 2020 - 20:06
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 26 Jun 2017 Member No.: 92,701 |
anybody have a up to date picture of bus lane sign lea bridge road by Cornthwaite Rd approaching lea bridge roundabout please not from the area had PCN using bus lane but vehicle licenced taxi
sent photos of taxi plus rejected my appeal because letter from TfL stating taxi can use bus lane had names retracted from it This post has been edited by yoddn: Sat, 31 Oct 2020 - 20:06 |
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Sat, 31 Oct 2020 - 21:20
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
Would you like to try again in English please? What you've posted is mostly unintelligible.
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Sat, 31 Oct 2020 - 22:50
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Member Group: Members Posts: 29,269 Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Member No.: 16,671 |
Should be in the council section.
Long bus lane and he seems to be referring to cam towards Western end of LBR. Taxis permitted I think? -------------------- |
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Sun, 1 Nov 2020 - 00:14
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Member Group: Members Posts: 25,726 Joined: 28 Jun 2010 From: Area 51 Member No.: 38,559 |
If it's TFL, doesn't Taxi exclude private hire and only refer to Hackney Carriages?
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Sun, 1 Nov 2020 - 00:23
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Member Group: Members Posts: 29,269 Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Member No.: 16,671 |
If it's TFL, doesn't Taxi exclude private hire and only refer to Hackney Carriages? I think so but depends what he means by 'licensed taxi'. -------------------- |
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Sun, 1 Nov 2020 - 11:14
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 26 Jun 2017 Member No.: 92,701 |
so for all the confusion caused all I wanted was an update picture of the bus lane sign on lea bridge road approaching lea bridge roundabout as I received a PCN for Contravention code 34 I appealed that the signage said buses,bikes,taxi I have a old letter from TFL stating licenced taxis ie licenced hackney carriage's can use 90% of bus lanes it dosnt say anything on the sign stating local or licenced London taxis unlike heathrow t2 which has lanes only for London taxis
hope someone can help I will post the pcn up later, sorry the last picture is not very good had this letter a long time This post has been edited by yoddn: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 - 12:22 |
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Mon, 2 Nov 2020 - 11:31
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
Well the letter from TFL is irrelevant as the PCN is from Hackney Council. Is your vehicle a private hire vehicle or a hackney carriage?
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Tue, 3 Nov 2020 - 10:53
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 26 Jun 2017 Member No.: 92,701 |
thanks for getting back to me the vehicle in question is a licenced hackney carriage
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Tue, 3 Nov 2020 - 14:05
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Member Group: Members Posts: 26,655 Joined: 6 Nov 2014 Member No.: 74,048 |
So can we assume because you are doing your best not to tell us.
It is a licensed taxi not a PHV The license is not issued by a London borough or TFL ? -------------------- All advice is given freely. It is given without guarantee and responsibility for its use rests with the user
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Tue, 3 Nov 2020 - 17:32
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Member Group: Members Posts: 29,269 Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Member No.: 16,671 |
all I wanted was an update picture of the bus lane sign on lea bridge road approaching lea bridge roundabout Well soz but we don't work like that. We like to look at the full story of the case. I'm not sure how a sign is relevant anyway. Have you submitted a challenge against the PCN ? Have you received a reply to such a challenge? If so, we need to see those. -------------------- |
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Tue, 3 Nov 2020 - 19:24
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
thanks for getting back to me the vehicle in question is a licenced hackney carriage You know where this is so post a link to the exact spot on google street view. -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Thu, 5 Nov 2020 - 11:31
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 26 Jun 2017 Member No.: 92,701 |
he is the information you asked for
(1) I'm the keeper not the driver of the vehicle as its leased to drivers (2) the vehicle is not licenced by TFL But my local council (3) the vehicle is a licenced hackney carriage and not a PHV (4) I'm posting a picture of the road sign I wasn't aware of its location because on the pcn it said lea bridge road which you might be aware is a very long road I only discovered the location by looking at the live video recording and noticed longitude and latitude displayed (5) Only buses, taxis (Hackney Carriages) and pedal cyclists can use the bus lane during its hours of operation. The definition of a bus lane contained in the Traffic Signs Regulation and Directions 2002 is ‘motor vehicles constructed or adapted to carry more than eight passengers (exclusive of the driver) (6) if I'm right hackney council doesn't have any licenced hackney carriages so to display one on their road sign cannot be right so they must mean the ones describing in the road traffic act (7) also the vehicle was hired in its licenced area on a wait and return so technical it was a licenced hackney carriage for its entire journey This post has been edited by yoddn: Thu, 5 Nov 2020 - 11:34 |
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Thu, 5 Nov 2020 - 11:48
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Member Group: Members Posts: 25,726 Joined: 28 Jun 2010 From: Area 51 Member No.: 38,559 |
Reading that rejection, first thing I would do is exactly as they ask...send clear, unredacted copies of the documents that you sent.
Very often, when a council rejects but asks for more information, they are thinking of accepting but need something they can file so they can tick the box that says "proof received" Accept that you want to double check signs etc but at the moment, just do as they ask. |
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Thu, 5 Nov 2020 - 12:41
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Member Group: Members Posts: 26,655 Joined: 6 Nov 2014 Member No.: 74,048 |
Reading that rejection, first thing I would do is exactly as they ask...send clear, unredacted copies of the documents that you sent. Very often, when a council rejects but asks for more information, they are thinking of accepting but need something they can file so they can tick the box that says "proof received" Accept that you want to double check signs etc but at the moment, just do as they ask. +1 other points can wait -------------------- All advice is given freely. It is given without guarantee and responsibility for its use rests with the user
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Thu, 5 Nov 2020 - 13:21
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Member Group: Members Posts: 29,269 Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Member No.: 16,671 |
Hackney don't want that letter you sent from TfL.
They just want to see evidence of this > the vehicle is not licenced by TFL But my local council the vehicle is a licenced hackney carriage -------------------- |
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Thu, 5 Nov 2020 - 17:57
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
Hackney don't want that letter you sent from TfL. They just want to see evidence of this > the vehicle is not licenced by TFL But my local council the vehicle is a licenced hackney carriage +1, send proof that the vehicle is a licenced hackney carriage, in readable documents with no redactions, and they will probably cancel the PCN. -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Fri, 6 Nov 2020 - 16:46
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 26 Jun 2017 Member No.: 92,701 |
thanks again I've sent them pictures of my vehicle showing the roof sign, door sticker and hackney plate on the boot
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Fri, 6 Nov 2020 - 17:48
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
thanks again I've sent them pictures of my vehicle showing the roof sign, door sticker and hackney plate on the boot Don't you have any paperwork from your local council? -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Fri, 6 Nov 2020 - 20:33
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 26 Jun 2017 Member No.: 92,701 |
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Fri, 6 Nov 2020 - 21:30
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
sorry im a little confused should I send letter from TFL also I have my licence from Basildon council which im showing you redtracted but will send not unredacted copies If you send an unredacted copy of that to the council, together with the photos of your car, I am sure they will cancel the PCN. -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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