Quick question on variable speed cameras on 4 lane motorways |
Quick question on variable speed cameras on 4 lane motorways |
Sat, 16 Dec 2017 - 20:21
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Member Group: Members Posts: 120 Joined: 2 Dec 2006 Member No.: 9,370 |
Hi
M1 North - variable limit, four lanes, 50mph limit. Camera located above hard shoulder not lanes. Just received an NIP for 58mph in lane 2 I have no recollection of the offence. Bit annoying as I take a lot of stick at work for my speed - am known as Captain Slow. Three quick questions regarding the photos 1) the car in lane 3 (running on afterburners) is overtaking me as shown by the difference between the two photos - will he get his own ticket or have I received his? 2) How does one check the distance traveled between the two photos to check my speed - there are no markings on the carriageway only lane markings? cheers Captain Slow |
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Sat, 16 Dec 2017 - 20:28
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,505 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
HADECS3.
No lines on road required. The system can catch multiple speeders. -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Sat, 16 Dec 2017 - 20:36
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Member Group: Members Posts: 6,723 Joined: 3 Apr 2006 From: North Hampshire Member No.: 5,183 |
The answer to 2): photogrammetry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photogrammetry
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Sat, 16 Dec 2017 - 20:52
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Member Group: Members Posts: 7,235 Joined: 5 Jan 2007 From: England Member No.: 9,919 |
Pretty sure there was a thread couple of years back about seed limits on individual lanes and their legality.
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Sat, 16 Dec 2017 - 20:53
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Pretty sure there was a thread couple of years back about seed limits on individual lanes and their legality. I think all lanes had the same limit. -------------------- Moderator
Any comments made do not constitute legal advice and should not be relied upon. No lawyer/client relationship should be assumed nor should any duty of care be owed. |
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Sat, 16 Dec 2017 - 20:53
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Member Group: Members Posts: 120 Joined: 2 Dec 2006 Member No.: 9,370 |
Thank you for the replies.
All very clever. How do I check from the photos my speed - that it is me and not Mr Skywalker in lane 3? regards |
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Sat, 16 Dec 2017 - 21:04
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13,735 Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Member No.: 14,720 |
Thank you for the replies. All very clever. How do I check from the photos my speed - that it is me and not Mr Skywalker in lane 3? regards It may not be possible. Others will confirm. The photos are to simply identify the vehicle. Let's see the photo. This post has been edited by peterguk: Sat, 16 Dec 2017 - 21:09 -------------------- |
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Sat, 16 Dec 2017 - 21:32
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,505 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
The yellow lines and green circle highlight the measured vehicle.
-------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Sat, 16 Dec 2017 - 21:58
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Member Group: Members Posts: 7,235 Joined: 5 Jan 2007 From: England Member No.: 9,919 |
Pretty sure there was a thread couple of years back about seed limits on individual lanes and their legality. I think all lanes had the same limit. Reading again I see youre right. I took it the limit was only above HS not the camera. Ie hadecs 3. |
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Sun, 17 Dec 2017 - 09:31
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Hi Im trying to upload a pic but am getting an error message File larger than space available. 'attachment space used 2.03MB of 1.95MB' No matter what I try to upload no matter how small. Any clues anybody? |
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Sun, 17 Dec 2017 - 09:32
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,505 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
Hi Im trying to upload a pic but am getting an error message File larger than space available. 'attachment space used 2.03MB of 1.95MB' No matter what I try to upload no matter how small. Any clues anybody? Here. -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Sun, 17 Dec 2017 - 16:00
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,198 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
If the other driver was going as fast as you say, is it not likely you were the one of the two measured at 58!
This post has been edited by The Rookie: Sun, 17 Dec 2017 - 16:00 -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Sun, 17 Dec 2017 - 20:00
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Hi Rookie
thats what im concerned about - have I got his ticket Hope to get the pic up but its a faff This post has been edited by kev of cov: Sun, 17 Dec 2017 - 20:00 |
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Sun, 17 Dec 2017 - 20:35
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Member Group: Members Posts: 33,610 Joined: 2 Apr 2008 From: Not in the UK Member No.: 18,483 |
Hi Rookie thats what im concerned about - have I got his ticket Hope to get the pic up but its a faff Not if you think he was going much faster than 58, no. -------------------- Moderator
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Sun, 17 Dec 2017 - 20:39
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Still trying to upload a pic.......
Are they able to distinguish between lanes at the same time? We both got tickets? |
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Sun, 17 Dec 2017 - 20:56
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Sun, 17 Dec 2017 - 21:03
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