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Michael Gibson
post Wed, 5 Jun 2019 - 15:09
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Please can someone point me in the direction of TPT/PATAS/LT key cases whereby it was stated that a person cannot be expected to have an 100% accurate watch/clock? I've got a TPT adjudication where I'm four mins after the start time for a SYL.

Also, does the London Council's CEO handbook apply to EAs outside of London? Reigate and Banstead is this one. If not, is there an equivalent?

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post Wed, 5 Jun 2019 - 15:23
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Hate to say it Mike but I think 4 mins may be pushing it a little far.

Reference cases I can think of tend to be within a minute and IIRC, Statutory Guidance says two minutes "grace" on yellow lines.
But would need to check and is guidance not fixed in stone
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Michael Gibson
post Wed, 5 Jun 2019 - 15:49
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For sure.

the reason for the CEO handbook request, in case anyone is interested, is re obs periods for SYLs.

Another point is that the PCN is timed at 10:04, yet the photos are times 6 hours later! I've got this covered though.
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post Wed, 5 Jun 2019 - 16:34
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QUOTE (Michael Gibson @ Wed, 5 Jun 2019 - 16:49) *
For sure.

the reason for the CEO handbook request, in case anyone is interested, is re obs periods for SYLs.

Another point is that the PCN is timed at 10:04, yet the photos are times 6 hours later! I've got this covered though.


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IIRC PATROL councils should use the London CEO handbook


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QUOTE (Michael Gibson @ Wed, 5 Jun 2019 - 16:49) *
the reason for the CEO handbook request, in case anyone is interested, is re obs periods for SYLs.


Observation is not a grace period and as we know CEOs will issue if they are reasonably sure that there is no exempt activity despite say 5 mins observation guidance. Proving the exempt activity then does bring policy into play.

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