confusing sign ? |
confusing sign ? |
Sun, 31 May 2020 - 14:18
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I parked here (I am not disabled), but I was confused by this sign. Is it open to everybody or just disabled? The white box was marked out on the road, but there was nothing inside it that suggested that it was for disabled only. (There were some faded double yellow lines there though!). Needless to say, I didn't get a ticket.
This post has been edited by I-LOV-MONEY: Sun, 31 May 2020 - 14:39 -------------------- I thank you for reading this message.
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Sun, 31 May 2020 - 15:10
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Member Group: Members Posts: 23,582 Joined: 12 Feb 2013 From: London Member No.: 59,924 |
it's for everyone but tells blue badge holders they get nothing more than non-BB holders.
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Mon, 1 Jun 2020 - 09:56
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,198 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
As Stamfordman says, the only purpose of the disabled sign is to limit them to the same parking as everyone else (normally they wouldn’t be). So you can park there 8 til 8 for no more than 20 mins, disabled or not.
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Thu, 4 Jun 2020 - 12:32
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Member Group: Members Posts: 675 Joined: 26 Aug 2009 Member No.: 31,529 |
Thanks guys. (I didn't receive notification that there had been replies!). I just found it confusing. I have never seen a sign restricting disabled people previously.
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Thu, 4 Jun 2020 - 12:38
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Member Group: Members Posts: 26,655 Joined: 6 Nov 2014 Member No.: 74,048 |
The sign is formatted as it is so as not to fall foul of s7 here
www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2000/683/regulation/7/made The sign is formatted as it is so as not to fall foul of s7 here www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2000/683/regulation/7/made Though I am not convinced it does -------------------- All advice is given freely. It is given without guarantee and responsibility for its use rests with the user
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Thu, 4 Jun 2020 - 14:46
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Member Group: Members Posts: 25,726 Joined: 28 Jun 2010 From: Area 51 Member No.: 38,559 |
To me the inclusion of the word "only" within the disabled section makes it a bay for BB holders only.
Which to me says that there are two, conflicting parking restrictions in place. Apart from that I agree that it is most likely to be attempting to restrict BB holders to 3 hours. Which IMO does not fall foul of S7 due to S7(b) "(b)the prohibition does not apply to all vehicles except disabled persons' vehicles." (my bold) |
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Thu, 4 Jun 2020 - 15:21
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To me the inclusion of the word "only" within the disabled section makes it a bay for BB holders only. Which to me says that there are two, conflicting parking restrictions in place. Apart from that I agree that it is most likely to be attempting to restrict BB holders to 3 hours. You mean 20 minutes. The 'only' is ambiguous as it can mean BB only for 20 mins but I agree the word usually means the space is only for whomever. At least the top sign is on top. This post has been edited by stamfordman: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 - 15:21 |
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Thu, 4 Jun 2020 - 15:44
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Member Group: Members Posts: 26,655 Joined: 6 Nov 2014 Member No.: 74,048 |
To me the inclusion of the word "only" within the disabled section makes it a bay for BB holders only. Which to me says that there are two, conflicting parking restrictions in place. Apart from that I agree that it is most likely to be attempting to restrict BB holders to 3 hours. Which IMO does not fall foul of S7 due to S7(b) "(b)the prohibition does not apply to all vehicles except disabled persons' vehicles." (my bold) But when reading both signs does not the prohibition apply to All vehicles Top sign. Bottom sign only applies to BB holders so can the bottom sign have precedence over the top sign. IMO that would not be allowed in the normal placement of signs for TSRGD with the most onerous restriction on top Nice to see you DD by the way, your thoughts are missed -------------------- All advice is given freely. It is given without guarantee and responsibility for its use rests with the user
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