Parking ticket for a car that was repossessed Options

[Sg1642]

This is a bit of a strange one. Involves Thurrock council. I had a car with a logbook loan, one thing led to another and I handed the car back to the loan company for them to auction towards the outstanding bill. It was collected by one of their collection agents and I thought that was that.

The agent and his brother used the car as their personal run about for a couple of months and racked up a few parking tickets. Because the logbook company kept the logbook, I couldn't change the keeper details.

I now have a bailiff company chasing me for an outstanding balance of several hundred pounds and bailiffs coming to my place of work. The council are refusing to speak to me about it, telling me I have to speak to the bailiff company, and they are telling me I have to speak to the council. I have been told to make a statutory declaration to the Northampton ticket office, but none of their options apply to me. I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place and any help would be greatly appreciated.

I've provided a letter from the DVLA, texts and emails from the driver admitting he was driving, road tax and insurance documents, a letter from the logbook loan company saying the car was repossessed before the incident occurred. All fell on deaf ears.

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[Sg1642]

sg1642.

HCA might come across as harsh but it's because we need to be. We know only to well how the application you need to make
can go wrong and we also know how to have the best chance of being successful.
No one is doubting your story but we will need to demonstrate it in an indisputable way in the application.

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One thing in your favour is that you didn't own the car. Can you just tells us more about DVLA recognising that or,
better still, show us what they have sent you.

Even if we end up a bit vague on some facts the underlying fact that you were not the owner can have sway.

I don't have the letter to hand but I contacted the DVLA with different bits of proof (such as screenshot and emails) showing when the vehicle was repossessed. This was quite late in the day, January of this year, and they got back to me two weeks later by letter saying they had updated their records to show the vehicle wasn't registered to me, effective from 09/01/19 (the date the vehicle was recovered, I have stated the 11th because this was the date on the confirmation letter sent by the loan company, the DVLA went off the texts between myself and the recovery agent on the day he took it). I know this was a long time after and should have been done sooner, but without the v5 and the loan company having the car, it didn't occur to me that I could do this.

[Neil B]

sg1642.
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One thing in your favour is that you didn't own the car. Can you just tells us more about DVLA recognising that or,
better still, show us what they have sent you.

Even if we end up a bit vague on some facts the underlying fact that you were not the owner can have sway.

I don't have the letter to hand but I contacted the DVLA with different bits of proof (such as screenshot and emails) showing when the vehicle was repossessed. This was quite late in the day, January of this year, and they got back to me two weeks later by letter saying they had updated their records to show the vehicle wasn't registered to me, effective from 09/01/19 (the date the vehicle was recovered, I have stated the 11th because this was the date on the confirmation letter sent by the loan company, the DVLA went off the texts between myself and the recovery agent on the day he took it). I know this was a long time after and should have been done sooner, but without the v5 and the loan company having the car, it didn't occur to me that I could do this.

late in the day doesn't matter; they accepted when ownership changed hands BUT --- and you're going to need to get a grip on these things ---- you need to have it hand at some point in the near future.

Likewise the issue with my question on how much is the bailiff demanding. You must have received something from them?
We need to assess the current risk to you and your exposure.

[Sg1642]

sg1642.
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One thing in your favour is that you didn't own the car. Can you just tells us more about DVLA recognising that or,
better still, show us what they have sent you.

Even if we end up a bit vague on some facts the underlying fact that you were not the owner can have sway.

I don't have the letter to hand but I contacted the DVLA with different bits of proof (such as screenshot and emails) showing when the vehicle was repossessed. This was quite late in the day, January of this year, and they got back to me two weeks later by letter saying they had updated their records to show the vehicle wasn't registered to me, effective from 09/01/19 (the date the vehicle was recovered, I have stated the 11th because this was the date on the confirmation letter sent by the loan company, the DVLA went off the texts between myself and the recovery agent on the day he took it). I know this was a long time after and should have been done sooner, but without the v5 and the loan company having the car, it didn't occur to me that I could do this.

late in the day doesn't matter; they accepted when ownership changed hands BUT --- and you're going to need to get a grip on these things ---- you need to have it hand at some point in the near future.

Likewise the issue with my question on how much is the bailiff demanding. You must have received something from them?
We need to assess the current risk to you and your exposure.

I can get access to it easily enough its just the letter is at home and I'm at work but I can get it.

I think all in the bailiff company are requesting £380, lockdown stopped a lot of the action and there was one visit which he made that he couldn't park up for so it didn't go down as an official visit.

[Neil B]

£380 is closer. I think you'll find it's £376 and that makes sense.

Where were bailiff notices sent? i.e. does the bailiff have your current address? Would they even get on camp/base?

[hcandersen]

Please stop harking back to what you've done and the circumstances, they are irrelevant for your purposes.

I must get this point across to you: unless you get TEC to accept your OOT then you are stuffed, end of. They are not interested in the circumstances of the contravention or who was driving or who's to blame, that's for the adjudicator, not TEC.

So in your parlance, we know the target and we have the delivery system, but we don't have any ammo, you have it.

The date of the NTO;
The date of the OfR;
When they came into your possession and the circumstances.

We'll have more questions which follow from the above, but these have to wait.