5 NIP’s in 12 days |
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Helping the motorist get justice
5 NIP’s in 12 days |
 Sun, 7 Mar 2021 - 00:11
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 6 Mar 2021 Member No.: 111,855  |
Hi there,
Any help on the below would be appreciated My house has recently been undergoing renovations and I live with two house mates who have not notified me until today that I had some post waiting for me. To my horror I have 5 NIP’s from a 12 day period between 17/2 and 28/2 . On the same stretch of road I commute on every day and have for the past 3 years. They are 3 from one camera and 2 from another basically going to and from work All are 36/40 MPH 2 are saying due to temporary restriction to 30mph on a motorway (road works ) and 3 exceed 30mph against a local traffic order I have never had any speeding offence etc prior to this and apparently until recently this road has always been 40mph So basically 15 points and a driving ban within the same 12 day period. I haven’t done anything at all yet apart from send various panicked emails to the solicitors listed here:, I can’t do my job if I can’t drive either which is worrying Any advice would be appreciated Thank you |
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Tue, 9 Mar 2021 - 08:12
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 6 Mar 2021 Member No.: 111,855 |
Hi again,
Still working on getting pictures , car is now in for MOT so will be a delay Does anyone have any idea how I should word the cover letter e.g what to say or what not to say? Thanks |
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Tue, 9 Mar 2021 - 09:12
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 Member Group: Members Posts: 56,261 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
post #2 write and post for critique before sending.
-------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Wed, 10 Mar 2021 - 08:53
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 6 Mar 2021 Member No.: 111,855 |
Quick question
If the first offence is 17/2 but letter dates 18/2 is the deadline 18/2? Draft letter here To whom it may concern Please find enclosed 5 NIP’s, please may I add the below comments Firstly I have held a full clean driving license for over 8 years with no penalty points Secondly I have driven this same road on the way to and from work for the last 3 years with no issue. Thirdly given the time between the offences I have had no time to modify my driving behaviour and my house is currently undergoing renovations and so until the 6/3 I had no idea I had any post which means again no time to modify behaviour You can see the offences are the same camera on the way to and from the office and I have obviously missed the restrictions as each speed is under 40 which is what I believed to be the speed of the road and the one I have been using for years Two of the offences are on the same day to and from the office so the same round trip Could I ask is there any way these could be looked at again regarding the circumstances above as I feel 15 penalty points given my driving history and the circumstances around this seem extreme Thank you |
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Wed, 10 Mar 2021 - 12:10
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The date of the letter is the relevant one for the S172 deadline.
I have edited your letter below. It is up to you but IMO best to keep it simple & fall on your sword. You don't want them to think you are appealing/excusing the offences. QUOTE (KeyserSoze @ Wed, 10 Mar 2021 - 08:53)  Quick question If the first offence is 17/2 but letter dates 18/2 is the deadline 18/2? Draft letter here To whom it may concern Please find enclosed 5 NIP’s. Please could I make you aware of why I am returning them together. I was shocked and disappointed to receive one letter, let alone five. Unfortunately I didn't receive the first letter until after the fifth offence was committed. Because of this I did not realise I had missed the restrictions. I genuinely thought the road had a 40mph limit. I have held a full clean driving license for over 8 years with no penalty points. I am well aware of the dangers of excessive speed and would have immediately limited my speed had I realised I was speeding. Please would it be possible to consider the offences together when deciding what further action will be taken. I would greatly appreciate if any discretion could be shown given the exceptional circumstances. Thank you With any luck they will offer one course and one FPN. At that stage you can pursue a defence, without risking your licence. |
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Wed, 10 Mar 2021 - 12:20
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 6 Mar 2021 Member No.: 111,855 |
Amazing thank you so much!
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Wed, 10 Mar 2021 - 12:26
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Member Group: Members Posts: 3,074 Joined: 17 Nov 2015 Member No.: 80,686 |
Before you snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - WHERE ARE THOSE IMAGES of the signs???
It may also be important when they were placed there (and when the actual restriction was in place)? |
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Wed, 10 Mar 2021 - 12:48
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,261 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Wed, 10 Mar 2021 - 12:10) At that stage you can pursue a defence, without risking your licence. Depends how they word the 'offer', if he makes them take him to court they may just go with all 5. If they make a decent offer I'd suggest accepting would be the better tactic. This post has been edited by The Rookie: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 - 12:49 -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
S172's Rookies 1-0 Kent Council PCN's Rookies 1-0 Warwick Rookies 1-0 Birmingham PPC PCN's Rookies 10-0 PPC's |
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Wed, 10 Mar 2021 - 13:00
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Can we at least spell “licence” correctly? In this context it is a noun not a verb.
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