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markadams
post Thu, 18 Jul 2019 - 05:56
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I am a car trader, i have motor trade insurance, and all vehicles are purchased via main agents, put `in trade` using the yellow slip, and stay in my custody or control until sold.
Being `in trade` as i recall means i dont have to tax insure the car etc. If the car needs moving, or for demonstration i use trade plates.

I can only keep 7 cars at home so i use a couple of private parking areas. I have a friend with a flat in each so use the many many available parking spaces as i dont have premises. Private car par, private land.

So i went to my cars yesterday and the cars had been clamped, clearly reported to dvla. Maybe dvla hadnt checked they were in trade and it stated they had been reported to dvla and clamped. The company that clamped them i believe is NSL and they have a compound in west bromwich.

A quick look on the gov.uk website tells me these cars need to be sorned, but how can i take a sorned car onto the road for a text drive? Or for an mot?

So this morning i need to make some calls and am asking your incredible brains where i stand with this.

i have read this....

https://www.gov.uk/sorn-statutory-off-road-...n/motor-traders

It doesnt make good reading especially as i dont have `business premises` which actually means i cant park them at home without SORN, and if i do and their on a test drive im then also comitting anoffence


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- markadams   dvla clamps   Thu, 18 Jul 2019 - 05:56
- - Logician   I think the situation is as follows, but stand to ...   Thu, 18 Jul 2019 - 11:32
- - markadams   Where may i ask, if i may, where you got your info...   Thu, 18 Jul 2019 - 18:08
|- - Logician   QUOTE (markadams @ Thu, 18 Jul 2019 - 19...   Thu, 18 Jul 2019 - 23:13
- - Foxy01   Only the cars kept at your 'premises' can ...   Thu, 18 Jul 2019 - 20:00
|- - The Rookie   QUOTE (Foxy01 @ Thu, 18 Jul 2019 - 21...   Thu, 18 Jul 2019 - 20:33
|- - Foxy01   QUOTE (The Rookie @ Thu, 18 Jul 2019 - 2...   Thu, 18 Jul 2019 - 20:54
- - andy_foster   QUOTE (The Rookie @ Thu, 18 Jul 2019 - 2...   Thu, 18 Jul 2019 - 21:19
- - markadams   logician i was going to say thankyou and you are b...   Fri, 19 Jul 2019 - 06:25
|- - IanJohnsonWS14   QUOTE (markadams @ Fri, 19 Jul 2019 - 07...   Fri, 19 Jul 2019 - 09:25
|- - localdriver   QUOTE (markadams @ Fri, 19 Jul 2019 - 07...   Fri, 19 Jul 2019 - 11:37
|- - Logician   QUOTE (localdriver @ Fri, 19 Jul 2019 - ...   Fri, 19 Jul 2019 - 12:00
- - Irksome   If I run a motor trading company and rent parking ...   Fri, 19 Jul 2019 - 12:16
- - PickAName   Hi everyone. Long time lurker but I had to registe...   Fri, 19 Jul 2019 - 18:20
- - Logician   The DVLA advice is HERE Presumably they either cl...   Fri, 19 Jul 2019 - 19:51
|- - localdriver   QUOTE (Logician @ Fri, 19 Jul 2019 - 20...   Fri, 19 Jul 2019 - 20:10
- - andy_foster   Standard rant #46 - it never ceases to amaze me (a...   Fri, 19 Jul 2019 - 20:20
- - Logician   Mea culpa   Fri, 19 Jul 2019 - 22:50
- - markadams   Hi everyone sorry for any delay as have been away....   Wed, 31 Jul 2019 - 07:17
- - localdriver   Your 1997 link is out of date. The latest legisla...   Wed, 31 Jul 2019 - 07:48
- - markadams   Do you have a link to the current legislation plea...   Wed, 31 Jul 2019 - 08:16
- - localdriver   Schedule 2A, Vehicles Excise and Registration Act ...   Wed, 31 Jul 2019 - 08:18
- - markadams   So this? https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/199...   Wed, 31 Jul 2019 - 08:28
- - Logician   The crucial part of the regulation quoted is: Pow...   Wed, 31 Jul 2019 - 10:01
|- - localdriver   QUOTE (Logician @ Wed, 31 Jul 2019 - 11...   Wed, 31 Jul 2019 - 10:16
|- - Logician   QUOTE (localdriver @ Wed, 31 Jul 2019 - ...   Wed, 31 Jul 2019 - 10:39
|- - southpaw82   QUOTE (Logician @ Wed, 31 Jul 2019 - 11...   Wed, 31 Jul 2019 - 10:41
|- - Logician   QUOTE (southpaw82 @ Wed, 31 Jul 2019 - 1...   Wed, 31 Jul 2019 - 11:33
- - The Rookie   QUOTE 4Schedule 2A (immobilisation, removal and di...   Wed, 31 Jul 2019 - 10:31
- - The Rookie   If they were "within the curtilage of, or in ...   Wed, 31 Jul 2019 - 11:16
- - markadams   Guys, some of you are far too smart for the likes ...   Wed, 31 Jul 2019 - 12:24
- - localdriver   The authority is not 'doing exactly as they pl...   Wed, 31 Jul 2019 - 13:13
- - markadams   dvla have confirmed they have no interest inthe ve...   Thu, 1 Aug 2019 - 06:06
|- - localdriver   QUOTE (markadams @ Thu, 1 Aug 2019 - 07...   Thu, 1 Aug 2019 - 07:13
|- - The Rookie   QUOTE (localdriver @ Thu, 1 Aug 2019 - 0...   Thu, 1 Aug 2019 - 10:25
|- - markadams   QUOTE (The Rookie @ Thu, 1 Aug 2019 - 11...   Thu, 1 Aug 2019 - 16:08
||- - The Rookie   QUOTE (markadams @ Thu, 1 Aug 2019 - 17...   Fri, 2 Aug 2019 - 05:28
||- - markadams   https://i.imgur.com/EUtKi9g.jpg https://imgur.com...   Fri, 2 Aug 2019 - 17:36
|- - localdriver   QUOTE (The Rookie @ Thu, 1 Aug 2019 - 11...   Thu, 1 Aug 2019 - 18:53
- - Incandescent   And, of course, make lots of money at the same tim...   Thu, 1 Aug 2019 - 09:09
- - KH_   Hmmm, now I have concerns. My car is parked in a s...   Fri, 2 Aug 2019 - 16:18
|- - localdriver   QUOTE (KH_ @ Fri, 2 Aug 2019 - 17:18...   Fri, 2 Aug 2019 - 16:57
- - markadams   What does the `normally enjoyed` mean QU...   Fri, 2 Aug 2019 - 17:05
- - 666   Removing the number plates creates an offence unde...   Fri, 2 Aug 2019 - 17:52
|- - markadams   QUOTE (666 @ Fri, 2 Aug 2019 - 18:52...   Fri, 2 Aug 2019 - 17:59
|- - 666   QUOTE (markadams @ Fri, 2 Aug 2019 - 18...   Fri, 2 Aug 2019 - 20:50
|- - PickAName   QUOTE (666 @ Fri, 2 Aug 2019 - 21:50...   Sun, 4 Aug 2019 - 20:59
- - markadams   Have we run aground with this, anyone any further ...   Sun, 4 Aug 2019 - 07:16
|- - localdriver   [quote name='markadams' date='Sun, 4 A...   Sun, 4 Aug 2019 - 07:47
- - The Rookie   Let’s have the google street view links to the l...   Sun, 4 Aug 2019 - 07:19
|- - markadams   QUOTE (The Rookie @ Sun, 4 Aug 2019 - 08...   Sun, 4 Aug 2019 - 08:12
|- - localdriver   QUOTE (markadams @ Sun, 4 Aug 2019 - 09...   Sun, 4 Aug 2019 - 13:33
|- - markadams   QUOTE (localdriver @ Sun, 4 Aug 2019 - 1...   Sun, 4 Aug 2019 - 16:18
|- - localdriver   QUOTE (markadams @ Sun, 4 Aug 2019 - 17...   Sun, 4 Aug 2019 - 18:07
- - gilan02   I thought the OP said the car was not SORN?   Sun, 4 Aug 2019 - 07:28
- - The Rookie   I think you’ll struggle to argue curtilage for t...   Sun, 4 Aug 2019 - 15:32
- - The Rookie   Read up thread, they cannot clamp within the curti...   Sun, 4 Aug 2019 - 17:15
- - The Rookie   Correct..... There is nothing in the statute that...   Mon, 5 Aug 2019 - 04:52
|- - markadams   QUOTE (The Rookie @ Mon, 5 Aug 2019 - 05...   Mon, 5 Aug 2019 - 08:57
|- - The Rookie   QUOTE (markadams @ Mon, 5 Aug 2019 - 09...   Mon, 5 Aug 2019 - 09:17
|- - markadams   QUOTE (The Rookie @ Mon, 5 Aug 2019 - 10...   Tue, 6 Aug 2019 - 07:10
- - The Rookie   If you were trading from there it would be at your...   Tue, 6 Aug 2019 - 09:33
|- - markadams   QUOTE (The Rookie @ Tue, 6 Aug 2019 - 10...   Mon, 12 Aug 2019 - 17:11
|- - localdriver   QUOTE (markadams @ Mon, 12 Aug 2019 - 18...   Mon, 12 Aug 2019 - 17:30
|- - markadams   QUOTE (localdriver @ Mon, 12 Aug 2019 - ...   Tue, 13 Aug 2019 - 07:07
- - markadams   https://i.imgur.com/ILwCf2m.jpg hmmmm, here we g...   Wed, 7 Aug 2019 - 13:10
|- - localdriver   QUOTE (markadams @ Wed, 7 Aug 2019 - 14...   Wed, 7 Aug 2019 - 13:36
- - TonyS   I think that's two different things. Business...   Tue, 13 Aug 2019 - 07:48
- - localdriver   The exact s.29, (2C) exemption is 'Subsection ...   Tue, 13 Aug 2019 - 07:50
|- - markadams   QUOTE (localdriver @ Tue, 13 Aug 2019 - ...   Thu, 15 Aug 2019 - 10:12
|- - Fredd   QUOTE (markadams @ Thu, 15 Aug 2019 - 11...   Thu, 15 Aug 2019 - 10:22
||- - markadams   QUOTE (Fredd @ Thu, 15 Aug 2019 - 11...   Thu, 15 Aug 2019 - 10:30
||- - Fredd   QUOTE (markadams @ Thu, 15 Aug 2019 - 11...   Thu, 15 Aug 2019 - 12:05
|- - localdriver   QUOTE (markadams @ Thu, 15 Aug 2019 - 11...   Thu, 15 Aug 2019 - 10:40
|- - TonyS   QUOTE (markadams @ Thu, 15 Aug 2019 - 11...   Thu, 15 Aug 2019 - 11:24
|- - markadams   QUOTE (TonyS @ Thu, 15 Aug 2019 - 12...   Fri, 16 Aug 2019 - 08:39
|- - localdriver   QUOTE (markadams @ Fri, 16 Aug 2019 - 09...   Sat, 17 Aug 2019 - 14:38
|- - 666   QUOTE (markadams @ Fri, 16 Aug 2019 - 09...   Sat, 17 Aug 2019 - 15:59
||- - markadams   QUOTE (666 @ Sat, 17 Aug 2019 - 16:5...   Tue, 20 Aug 2019 - 07:24
||- - Slatz   QUOTE (markadams @ Tue, 20 Aug 2019 - 08...   Tue, 20 Aug 2019 - 08:34
|- - TonyS   QUOTE (markadams @ Fri, 16 Aug 2019 - 09...   Tue, 20 Aug 2019 - 08:46
- - nosferatu1001   How are they YOUR business premises and not HER pa...   Fri, 16 Aug 2019 - 08:46
- - markadams   Ok so the fines have arrived for the cars that wer...   Wed, 28 Aug 2019 - 11:45
- - The Rookie   Different CO2 ratings? Tax amount being based on C...   Wed, 28 Aug 2019 - 11:47
|- - markadams   QUOTE (The Rookie @ Wed, 28 Aug 2019 - 1...   Wed, 28 Aug 2019 - 12:03
- - markadams   I have contacted dvla, they state the number i cal...   Wed, 28 Aug 2019 - 12:22
- - nosferatu1001   He is right - its their offer and their timescales...   Wed, 28 Aug 2019 - 12:29
- - markadams   Ok I have recieved as you know penalties for the ...   Fri, 27 Sep 2019 - 12:37
- - nosferatu1001   Is it an offer to avoid prosecution? If so its the...   Fri, 27 Sep 2019 - 12:44
|- - markadams   QUOTE (nosferatu1001 @ Fri, 27 Sep 2019 ...   Fri, 27 Sep 2019 - 13:33
- - localdriver   The exemption for vehicle licensing does not apply...   Fri, 27 Sep 2019 - 12:50
- - localdriver   There are only three exemptions for the requiremen...   Fri, 27 Sep 2019 - 13:56
|- - markadams   QUOTE (localdriver @ Fri, 27 Sep 2019 - ...   Mon, 30 Sep 2019 - 07:52
- - nosferatu1001   You didnt answer the question, OP Are they offerin...   Fri, 27 Sep 2019 - 14:44
- - NewJudge   If their offer is in place of prosecution I don...   Fri, 27 Sep 2019 - 15:08
- - southpaw82   If the DVLA institute court proceedings, what is t...   Fri, 27 Sep 2019 - 15:41
- - The Rookie   A court will fine you what a court will fine you...   Mon, 30 Sep 2019 - 07:55
|- - markadams   QUOTE (The Rookie @ Mon, 30 Sep 2019 - 0...   Mon, 30 Sep 2019 - 08:56
- - MyronAub   QUOTE (markadams @ Fri, 27 Sep 2019 - 12...   Mon, 30 Sep 2019 - 08:20
- - localdriver   The fact that the vehicles were 'in trade...   Mon, 30 Sep 2019 - 09:13
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