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pard
post Wed, 26 Jun 2019 - 14:33
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Hi, i was caught speeding 3 months ago and just received the letter from the court with statements etc.

When i was stopped by the police they stated on the traffic offence report slip (recorded speed - 99mph 1724m 62.13s)

Even in the witness statement given by the police officer he states "After a distance of 1724 METERS the system informed me that the car was travelling at a speed of 99mph which took it 62.13s"

If we use some simple math i would be going 62mph(99kmph) to travel 1724 meters in 62 secs.

would i have a chance in court against this?

its my first offence with a clean licence.

thank you
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post Thu, 27 Jun 2019 - 11:51
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QUOTE (blackcross @ Thu, 27 Jun 2019 - 12:28) *
If it was a follow check, and it sounds like it

No, it sounds nothing like a follow check AT ALL, it sounds like Police Pilot (similar to the better known VASCAR) was used.


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post Thu, 27 Jun 2019 - 18:36
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QUOTE (blackcross @ Thu, 27 Jun 2019 - 12:28) *
It’s interesting that OP has avoided answering the question about whether 99mph is at all likely to have been accurate. So we don’t know whether this is a search for a loophole knowing that the offence was committed, or a genuine belief that the equipment was displaying the wrong units and there was no offence in the first place.

OP needs to be clear with himself, if not us, about what defence he is trying to run.

If it was a follow check, and it sounds like it, it will be reasonably easy to resolve any mistake over units. The officer will be able to give evidence of his own speed as displayed by his vehicle’s calibrated speedo, and will likely be a persuasive witness if he says he was travelling at about 100mph rather than 100kph.


apologies, been a little busy.

1. Yes 99mph is likely to be accurate as i was speeding.

2. i was followed by an unmarked police vehicle with the provida speed measuring device.

3. yes a loophole would have been great but as of now i am thinking of pleading guilty as i do not want to risk an excessive fine.
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post Thu, 27 Jun 2019 - 18:59
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QUOTE (pard @ Thu, 27 Jun 2019 - 19:36) *
i am thinking of pleading guilty as i do not want to risk an excessive fine.

The fine would only change by about £150 for a not guilty plea (if found guilty), what you need to worry about is the circa £550 increase in costs!


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post Thu, 27 Jun 2019 - 19:34
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Thu, 27 Jun 2019 - 19:59) *
QUOTE (pard @ Thu, 27 Jun 2019 - 19:36) *
i am thinking of pleading guilty as i do not want to risk an excessive fine.

The fine would only change by about £150 for a not guilty plea (if found guilty), what you need to worry about is the circa £550 increase in costs!


appreciate the help.

im definitely going to plead guilty... i think they will have me dead to rights with on board footage.

any idea how many points i should expect and would it be likely to receive a disqualification?

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post Thu, 27 Jun 2019 - 19:52
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6 points most likely outcome. A fine of around 66% of weekly earnings, costs of £85 and surcharge of 10% of the fine (min £30).


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post Fri, 19 Jul 2019 - 10:52
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Ended up receiving £395 fine and 4 points.
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post Fri, 19 Jul 2019 - 11:18
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That's an amazingly good result for 99mph! Go buy a lottery ticket while you have that luck.


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post Fri, 19 Jul 2019 - 11:55
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Very good! Sometimes seen 5 but can't recall 4...


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