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Helping the motorist get justice
Gemini Parking Solutions |
 Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 11:00
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The driver of the vehicle got a parking ticket from Gemini Parking solutions in Stratford. There were no signs anywhere and no indication of this being a private property
Should this be ignored or contested ? Front  Back 
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Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 11:00
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Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 11:39
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17,088 Joined: 8 Mar 2013 Member No.: 60,457 |
Get the driver to go there again and take photos of the lack of signage.
This will be appealed by the keeper so that the appeal arrives about 2 days before the end of the period allowed. |
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Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 11:40
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Member Group: Members Posts: 4,126 Joined: 31 Jan 2018 Member No.: 96,238 |
Appeal it on Day 26 as the keeper, NOT the driver - poor signs
Use an address that's slightly different from the vehicle's V5 Gemini must serve a Notice to Keeper between 29 and 56 days after the parking event if it wants the right to recover payment from the keeper One of the conditions is that it obtains your details from the DVLA The slightly different address will reveal if they paid the £2-50 or used the details on file from your appeal |
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Thu, 12 Jul 2018 - 19:44
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Member Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 6 Apr 2014 Member No.: 69,910 |
QUOTE (ostell @ Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 12:39)  Get the driver to go there again and take photos of the lack of signage. This will be appealed by the keeper so that the appeal arrives about 2 days before the end of the period allowed. Here are the pictures. Should the keeper appeal by email as that is also mentioned in the instructions ? Or is post the preferred method. Also is there any template for the appeal ? The entrance is on the left hand side here (Google Street View) https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5500941,-...3312!8i6656 The car was parked behind the VAN  Other pictures below     
This post has been edited by flash2004: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 - 19:51 |
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Thu, 12 Jul 2018 - 20:03
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I don't see any signs...
They got spanked at court on another thread - perhaps they'd like that again? -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Fri, 13 Jul 2018 - 08:12
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Member Group: Members Posts: 299 Joined: 22 Sep 2017 Member No.: 94,164 |
How on earth would anyone know you can't park there?! Reminds me of their poor signage at the location I parked at. I won my case yesterday by the way.
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Fri, 13 Jul 2018 - 09:22
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17,088 Joined: 8 Mar 2013 Member No.: 60,457 |
When you appeal as the keeper then send those photos and ask them where are the alleged signs that they allege created the contract.
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Sun, 15 Jul 2018 - 19:03
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Member Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 6 Apr 2014 Member No.: 69,910 |
Should I just write a simple letter and send it across with the photographs saying that I appeal due to lack of signage, and also write a slightly different address compared to the V5 ?
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Sun, 15 Jul 2018 - 20:57
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17,088 Joined: 8 Mar 2013 Member No.: 60,457 |
Yes, appeal as the keeper And use that slightly different address, sufficiently different so that you know it is not obtained from the DVLA but not too different that any reply will not be delivered. First class post and Certificate of posting from a post office.
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Tue, 17 Jul 2018 - 21:59
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Member Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 6 Apr 2014 Member No.: 69,910 |
Many thanks. Can I ask what is the significance of appealing exactly on the 26th day ? The reason for asking is that the keeper might be on holiday on the 26th day so a couple of days before is ok or would that create any issues with the appeal ?
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Wed, 18 Jul 2018 - 07:07
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17,088 Joined: 8 Mar 2013 Member No.: 60,457 |
The reason is that they have to wait till day 28 to get the keeper details from the DVLA. If you give them those details then they save £2.50 by not applying to the DVLA. However having had communication with the keeper they may not bother to issue a Notice to Keeper. Either point is a failure at POFA and therefore there can be no keeper liability. Sending towards the end of the 28 days gives them less time to realise the mistake and send a valid NTK before the 56 days is up.
The slightly different address gives you the chance to detect if the have been to the DVLA or not. |
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Thu, 19 Jul 2018 - 07:39
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Member Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 6 Apr 2014 Member No.: 69,910 |
Many thanks. I will try and send it as late as possible. Also should I take into account 2 days for first class post ?
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Thu, 19 Jul 2018 - 08:05
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17,088 Joined: 8 Mar 2013 Member No.: 60,457 |
You time it to ARRIVE on day 26
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Thu, 19 Jul 2018 - 14:35
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Member Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 6 Apr 2014 Member No.: 69,910 |
Many thanks. I have drafted the letter and will ensure this arrives by day 26 (ie. 31/07/2018). Extract below
This post has been edited by flash2004: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 - 14:35 |
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Fri, 27 Jul 2018 - 12:42
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 18 Jul 2018 Member No.: 98,953 |
Joining this thread so as to follow it since my car was parked in a similar place.
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Fri, 27 Jul 2018 - 12:58
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There are some words painted on the road at the far end - looks like a bay of some sort. What do the words say? Can't read them from the photographs?
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Fri, 27 Jul 2018 - 13:32
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QUOTE (whjohnson @ Fri, 27 Jul 2018 - 13:58) There are some words painted on the road at the far end - looks like a bay of some sort. What do the words say? Can't read them from the photographs? Its a bus stop |
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Mon, 30 Jul 2018 - 12:37
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 18 Jul 2018 Member No.: 98,953 |
QUOTE (flash2004 @ Thu, 19 Jul 2018 - 15:35) Many thanks. I have drafted the letter and will ensure this arrives by day 26 (ie. 31/07/2018). Extract below I assume there are no comments / revisions that should be made to this letter? Reason for asking: I will be sending a very similar one. |
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Mon, 30 Jul 2018 - 12:44
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Member Group: Members Posts: 4,126 Joined: 31 Jan 2018 Member No.: 96,238 |
Looks OK
Don't forget to provide a name or address that's slightly different from the V5 This post has been edited by Redivi: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 - 12:44 |
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Mon, 30 Jul 2018 - 13:00
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17,088 Joined: 8 Mar 2013 Member No.: 60,457 |
Change the title to "Appeal from the keeper" the other wording sort of suggests that you could be something else as well.
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