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niacuk
post Mon, 4 Dec 2017 - 21:47
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Cutting to the chase.....

The driver (in car) entered a gated Britannia site in Plymouth in order to have breakfast with a friend. A good meal and a few coffees were enjoyed and 3.5hrs later the driver exited the site and headed home.

Today the driver gets a lovely pair of photos through the door and a request for £85 on the grounds that the driver stayed too long. 3hrs is apparently the limit on the site, regardless of whether or not you are a paying restaurant customer. The pictures of the car are good but not of the driver. Date and time makes sense and it all looks legit. But, is the driver really expected to pay the fine for enjoying the restaurant for 30 minutes longer than they'd like you to? Do they expect the driver to just get up and leave their meal and friend to meet the criteria of the parking company?

Ignore or not?

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post Sat, 20 Jan 2018 - 20:57
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QUOTE (niacuk @ Sat, 20 Jan 2018 - 21:04) *
Sorry for the long gap.....

The keeper received a rejection notice from Britannia...... as expected. A POPLA has been submitted worded very similarly to the post above (bye laws) along with the images of the port signs. Very many thanks for the assistance, the keeper will let us know what the outcome is.


Great, thanks for the update.

Either way, even if POPLA is lost, no-one here pays Britannia! Hope you realise POPLA is worth trying, but matters not if lost. No paying!
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niacuk
post Tue, 30 Jan 2018 - 21:38
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POPLA has returned to ask for further comments in response to the evidence presented by Britannia. The keeper has responded to say that there is no case to be made against any person as there is no proof of who was driving at the time. The laws governing the location state that the company can only seek funds from the driver. Hopefully that will be all that is needed.

If not then the keeper will follow the advice in the post above, unless told otherwise.

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post Tue, 30 Jan 2018 - 22:06
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You should be arguing against every statement that Brittania has made to POPLA.
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post Wed, 31 Jan 2018 - 07:04
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They did not provide much of an argument to comment against. The keeper has responded only to what was disputed.
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post Wed, 31 Jan 2018 - 13:54
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Did the appellant not also point out that any point Britannia does NOT dispute they are deemed to have accpeted, and thus the appeal must be upheld?
So for example if they did not dispute that the keeper has no liability as this wasnt relelavnt land / POFA wasnt met / etc, then the keeper is NOT liable.
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post Wed, 31 Jan 2018 - 21:21
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QUOTE (nosferatu1001 @ Wed, 31 Jan 2018 - 13:54) *
Did the appellant not also point out that any point Britannia does NOT dispute they are deemed to have accpeted, and thus the appeal must be upheld?
So for example if they did not dispute that the keeper has no liability as this wasnt relelavnt land / POFA wasnt met / etc, then the keeper is NOT liable.


Appellant? Mosquito trouble down your way?

Sorry, that was awful.

Britannia has only sent images of signage and some photocopied instruction regarding the right to contact dvla for keeper info etc. There was no response submitted by Britannia to contradict the keepers appeal statement and the keeper has responded to reiterate the land laws (if the keeper has understood them correctly). It all looks like a formality and the keeper is confident it will simply run its course, costing only time to both sides.

A well loved acronym from the keepers time in the forces was K.I.S.S..... Keep It Simple Stupid. The keeper may not be the most well read of minds but simple answers come from simple questions. Hopefully this will be the case here.
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post Wed, 31 Jan 2018 - 22:05
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You are the appelant and you are about to lose if you did not argue against each and every point made by Brittania. If you don't dispute POPLA take it as you accepting thecstatsment.
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post Wed, 7 Mar 2018 - 18:12
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Update: keeper is still waiting for decision post comments in Jan
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post Wed, 7 Mar 2018 - 19:41
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That's too long. What does the Portal say now when you log in?
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post Thu, 8 Mar 2018 - 18:55
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Keeper says it's at the stage of decision pending. The keeper has heard nothing from Britannia or POPLA. Could it be that Britannia have not bothered to argue the comments?
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post Thu, 8 Mar 2018 - 22:25
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Britannia don't get to see the comments, that was the appellant's final word for POPLA alone.

Should have had a decision by now, so why hasn't the keeper simply emailed POPLA seeing as they have the email address from earlier?
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post Fri, 9 Mar 2018 - 07:04
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Should the keeper contact POPLA? Or let sleeping dogs lie?
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post Fri, 9 Mar 2018 - 07:59
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QUOTE (SchoolRunMum @ Thu, 8 Mar 2018 - 22:25) *
Should have had a decision by now, so why hasn't the keeper simply emailed POPLA seeing as they have the email address from earlier?



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post Fri, 9 Mar 2018 - 10:30
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Arent you the keeper? If so, stop talking about yourself in the third person

Obviously we dont want to know whot the driver is.
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post Fri, 12 Oct 2018 - 06:54
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I guess this will be the last update on this case: Basically I've heard nothing back and the popla didn't progress any further. Thanks for the advice above, wink.gif
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post Fri, 12 Oct 2018 - 08:15
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As in, you didnt get a deicsion from them? Did you check junk mail?
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post Fri, 12 Oct 2018 - 18:52
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Have you logged on to the POPLA portal to see what that says?


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post Sat, 13 Oct 2018 - 09:30
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Still says in progress. No junk mail or any further correspondence.
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post Sat, 13 Oct 2018 - 19:35
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Mmm, now the question is do you complain to BPA or let sleeping dogs lie?

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post Sat, 13 Oct 2018 - 21:11
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Let sleeping dogs lie, but inform the parking firm if you move house, so that you know they can't sneakily start a court claim in a couple of years, getting you an unexpected CCJ at an old address.
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