NIP - Ran a red light ( Railway Crossings ) |
NIP - Ran a red light ( Railway Crossings ) |
Thu, 25 Apr 2019 - 19:05
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 25 Apr 2019 Member No.: 103,572 |
Hi!
Im wondering if anybody could help me out. I received a NIP in the post today asking for the details of the driver. The offence on the letter mentioned running a red light - they have CCTV evidence. I am guilty and have pleaded guilty. It was stupid mistake on my behalf. It’s my first offence... what are the chances I will offered an awareness course? Could I be done for careless/dangerous driving? It was a rail way/ level crossing... (yes I no stupid) Thanks! 🙏 This post has been edited by Theo91: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 - 19:21 |
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Thu, 25 Apr 2019 - 19:36
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,510 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
Strictly you haven't pleaded guilty...
However, a course may be offered if it wasn’t too far into red. Who issued the NIP? (BTP?) What offences are listed on the NIP? -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Thu, 25 Apr 2019 - 19:44
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 25 Apr 2019 Member No.: 103,572 |
If im being honest I think the lights were flashing red for a while.. 2-3 seconds after I crossed the barriers started to slowly come down. It was just a Sh*t day in general and I was in a rush (no excuse) like
I have said I have sent them my details..... Yes the letter was from the BTP. It was asking for my details and it mentioned going through a red light plus the time and place. (Section 36 Traffic Offence - Failure to comply with traffic signs) I just don’t want to get banned/ get 9 points ( Job involves driving, I could lose my job..) Course or 3 points and fine would be ideal. This post has been edited by Theo91: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 - 20:57 |
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Thu, 25 Apr 2019 - 23:08
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13,572 Joined: 28 Mar 2010 Member No.: 36,528 |
A s.36 offence brings 3 points, either as a fixed penalty or in court.
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Fri, 26 Apr 2019 - 09:17
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 25 Apr 2019 Member No.: 103,572 |
I got a feeling the lights were flashing red for too long for me to get offered the course but then that makes me think they might do me for careless driving. I can take 6 points max or I’ll lose my
Job. Would I have got the offence for careless driving on the NIP I sent back or will I receive that separately? |
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Fri, 26 Apr 2019 - 09:36
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Member Group: Members Posts: 6,963 Joined: 19 Dec 2006 From: Near Calais Member No.: 9,683 |
I don't believe there is a course for ignoring road signs. Maybe 3 points and a hefty fine. Think yourself lucky you are still alive to tell the tale. Trains usually win when thy hit cars.
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Fri, 26 Apr 2019 - 10:43
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,510 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
I don't believe there is a course for ignoring road signs. There is for traffic signal offences, if qualifying. -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Fri, 26 Apr 2019 - 12:05
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 25 Apr 2019 Member No.: 103,572 |
My gut feeling says I will not qualify for the course as the second set of Barriers started to close seconds after I went through..
Which in all fairness i probably don’t deserve it anyway but at the same time it’s the first time I Have ever done something stupid in 7 years of driving I’ve not even had a single parking ticket I would be absolutely Gutted to get over 6 points/ a ban. Should I hear from them soon if they was to be doing me for careless driving aswell? If I was To get charged with careless driving (3-9 points) could I try argue my case to get only 3 points from Each offence + A hefty fine. That way I can carry on with my life (Job) but have to enjoy increased premiums for the next 3-5 years... |
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Fri, 26 Apr 2019 - 12:43
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,510 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
If only a s36 is mentioned then you are only looking at a 3 pointer.
-------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Fri, 26 Apr 2019 - 12:46
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 25 Apr 2019 Member No.: 103,572 |
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