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brandon
post Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 21:57
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Evening all, was a passenger tonight with a work colleague as we were heading for some food, I wasn't paying much attention but realised blue lights behind us.

Officer asked my colleague his name and employer, then if the vehicle was a company vehicle (it is not) my colleague knew the speed limit (30mph - answered correctly), then he asked how fast my colleague thought he was going - to which he replied "just over 30". Officers reply was "pfffft, and the rest".

A different officer (Officer 2) then asked for name and DOB, which my colleague gave and Officer 2 jotted down on what looked like a ticket book. At the same time the initial officer was checking the registration and insurance, etc.

After that the first officer said "watch your speed and drive carefully, see you later"

The whole thing lasted no more than two minutes and we're both wondering what comes next? I was a bit surprised that nothing was given to my colleague and that he didn't have to sign anything. I'm completely unaware of the SOP for this kind of thing so forgive my ignorance but I expected something. The officer didn't confirm the exact speed, possibly he didn't know as it wasn't a traffic car. Should my colleague expect an NIP? Or may he have got off with it if they didn't give him anything?
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post Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:02
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Who knows for sure. Sounds like it was just a warning, but a NIP is a possibility.
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notmeatloaf
post Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:11
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Almost certainly just a (rather strange) telling off. The name/dob will be to confirm the insurance details.

Sounds like he was looking for bigger fish, e.g. insurance, licence, etc. Most forces now use a standard Traffic Offence Report carbon pad and will give you a copy if they actually intend to do anything about it.
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brandon
post Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:11
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QUOTE (BaggieBoy @ Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:02) *
Who knows for sure. Sounds like it was just a warning, but a NIP is a possibility.


Do you know the standard operating procedure? Do they not have to issue some sort of document?
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post Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:14
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QUOTE (brandon @ Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:11) *
QUOTE (BaggieBoy @ Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:02) *
Who knows for sure. Sounds like it was just a warning, but a NIP is a possibility.


Do you know the standard operating procedure? Do they not have to issue some sort of document?


They need no document to raise a NIP.


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brandon
post Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:23
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QUOTE (BaggieBoy @ Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:02) *
Who knows for sure. Sounds like it was just a warning, but a NIP is a possibility.



QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:11) *
Almost certainly just a (rather strange) telling off. The name/dob will be to confirm the insurance details.

Sounds like he was looking for bigger fish, e.g. insurance, licence, etc. Most forces now use a standard Traffic Offence Report carbon pad and will give you a copy if they actually intend to do anything about it.



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QUOTE (brandon @ Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:11) *
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Who knows for sure. Sounds like it was just a warning, but a NIP is a possibility.



Do you know the standard operating procedure? Do they not have to issue some sort of document?


They need no document to raise a NIP.


Thanks for the replies anyway lads/lasses
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post Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:26
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QUOTE (brandon @ Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:11) *
QUOTE (BaggieBoy @ Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:02) *
Who knows for sure. Sounds like it was just a warning, but a NIP is a possibility.


Do you know the standard operating procedure? Do they not have to issue some sort of document?

The only requirement in law is

1. Make the driver aware that you intend to prosecute for the offence (done).
2. Lay information to prosecute within six months.

Perhaps you or your friend are from an era before the police used to regularly hand out telling you what a useless git you were before sending you on your way as an alternative to prosecution. Traffic Offence Reports were meant to remove this discretion but a few old school police still effectively use bollockings.
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post Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:36
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QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:26) *
QUOTE (brandon @ Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:11) *
QUOTE (BaggieBoy @ Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:02) *
Who knows for sure. Sounds like it was just a warning, but a NIP is a possibility.


Do you know the standard operating procedure? Do they not have to issue some sort of document?

The only requirement in law is

1. Make the driver aware that you intend to prosecute for the offence (done).
2. Lay information to prosecute within six months.

Perhaps you or your friend are from an era before the police used to regularly hand out telling you what a useless git you were before sending you on your way as an alternative to prosecution. Traffic Offence Reports were meant to remove this discretion but a few old school police still effectively use bollockings.


I'm not really satisfied that was done. If I was satisfied, I wouldn't have posted this thread - at no point did the officers indicate that any prosecution was coming. Read the OP again and tell me where you think they've made my colleague aware of their intention.
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post Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:40
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QUOTE (brandon @ Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:36) *
QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:26) *
QUOTE (brandon @ Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:11) *
QUOTE (BaggieBoy @ Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:02) *
Who knows for sure. Sounds like it was just a warning, but a NIP is a possibility.


Do you know the standard operating procedure? Do they not have to issue some sort of document?

The only requirement in law is

1. Make the driver aware that you intend to prosecute for the offence (done).
2. Lay information to prosecute within six months.

Perhaps you or your friend are from an era before the police used to regularly hand out telling you what a useless git you were before sending you on your way as an alternative to prosecution. Traffic Offence Reports were meant to remove this discretion but a few old school police still effectively use bollockings.


I'm not really satisfied that was done. If I was satisfied, I wouldn't have posted this thread - at no point did the officers indicate that any prosecution was coming. Read the OP again and tell me where you think they've made my colleague aware of their intention.


He could be made aware verbally, OR be sent a NIP.


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brandon
post Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:43
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QUOTE (peterguk @ Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:40) *
QUOTE (brandon @ Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:36) *
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QUOTE (brandon @ Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:11) *
QUOTE (BaggieBoy @ Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:02) *
Who knows for sure. Sounds like it was just a warning, but a NIP is a possibility.


Do you know the standard operating procedure? Do they not have to issue some sort of document?

The only requirement in law is

1. Make the driver aware that you intend to prosecute for the offence (done).
2. Lay information to prosecute within six months.

Perhaps you or your friend are from an era before the police used to regularly hand out telling you what a useless git you were before sending you on your way as an alternative to prosecution. Traffic Offence Reports were meant to remove this discretion but a few old school police still effectively use bollockings.


I'm not really satisfied that was done. If I was satisfied, I wouldn't have posted this thread - at no point did the officers indicate that any prosecution was coming. Read the OP again and tell me where you think they've made my colleague aware of their intention.


He could be made aware verbally, OR be sent a NIP.


Thanks for that. So it's the old 14 day nervous wait for him?
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post Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:44
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QUOTE (brandon @ Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:43) *
QUOTE (peterguk @ Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:40) *
QUOTE (brandon @ Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:36) *
QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:26) *
QUOTE (brandon @ Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:11) *
QUOTE (BaggieBoy @ Thu, 1 Mar 2018 - 22:02) *
Who knows for sure. Sounds like it was just a warning, but a NIP is a possibility.


Do you know the standard operating procedure? Do they not have to issue some sort of document?

The only requirement in law is

1. Make the driver aware that you intend to prosecute for the offence (done).
2. Lay information to prosecute within six months.

Perhaps you or your friend are from an era before the police used to regularly hand out telling you what a useless git you were before sending you on your way as an alternative to prosecution. Traffic Offence Reports were meant to remove this discretion but a few old school police still effectively use bollockings.


I'm not really satisfied that was done. If I was satisfied, I wouldn't have posted this thread - at no point did the officers indicate that any prosecution was coming. Read the OP again and tell me where you think they've made my colleague aware of their intention.


He could be made aware verbally, OR be sent a NIP.


Thanks for that. So it's the old 14 day nervous wait for him?



Assuming he is the RK, correct.


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People here who really should know better are unnecessarily worrying you.

Unless you both completely missed the officer clearly telling you that you'd be reported for the offence, the chances of anything happening as a result of this old-style bollocking are vanishingly small. They put the fear of god into you and your friend's driving doubtless suddenly improved, so they achieved the desired effect.


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post Fri, 2 Mar 2018 - 12:55
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QUOTE (Fredd @ Fri, 2 Mar 2018 - 08:31) *
People here who really should know better are unnecessarily worrying you.

Unless you both completely missed the officer clearly telling you that you'd be reported for the offence, the chances of anything happening as a result of this old-style bollocking are vanishingly small. They put the fear of god into you and your friend's driving doubtless suddenly improved, so they achieved the desired effect.


I'd say this sounds just like a proper bollocking. You were going a bit fast but not dangerous, insurance checked ok, MOT ok, your mate passed the attitude test OK, so dont do it again basically...
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brandon
post Mon, 5 Mar 2018 - 14:50
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QUOTE (Fredd @ Fri, 2 Mar 2018 - 08:31) *
People here who really should know better are unnecessarily worrying you.

Unless you both completely missed the officer clearly telling you that you'd be reported for the offence, the chances of anything happening as a result of this old-style bollocking are vanishingly small. They put the fear of god into you and your friend's driving doubtless suddenly improved, so they achieved the desired effect.



QUOTE (bearclaw @ Fri, 2 Mar 2018 - 12:55) *
QUOTE (Fredd @ Fri, 2 Mar 2018 - 08:31) *
People here who really should know better are unnecessarily worrying you.

Unless you both completely missed the officer clearly telling you that you'd be reported for the offence, the chances of anything happening as a result of this old-style bollocking are vanishingly small. They put the fear of god into you and your friend's driving doubtless suddenly improved, so they achieved the desired effect.


I'd say this sounds just like a proper bollocking. You were going a bit fast but not dangerous, insurance checked ok, MOT ok, your mate passed the attitude test OK, so dont do it again basically...


Thanks both of you.

As I said, it was strange but amiable.
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