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Ariel
post Mon, 30 Oct 2017 - 21:23
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My Ex is still using my address for his licence and vehicles. He received a speeding ticket last month which I passed onto him, it would appear he has done nothing with it as I have received a reminder!

How long does it usually take from receiving the reminder to the police escalating it to the next step, which I am assuming is court??

I used to deal with everything like this for him and would fill the paperwork in and get him to sign it. As we have split up and things aren't particularly amicable I am not helping him, but am passing the mail on for him to deal with.

I have asked him to stop using my address but it is falling on deaf ears! ohmy.gif
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post Mon, 30 Oct 2017 - 21:26
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It's fine, you don't need to do anything. Once the bailiffs come round, explain the situation and give them his new address, they'll be more than happy to go and tow his car away from his new address.

If on the other hand you tell him that this is the ultimate outcome, he might update his address, and if he doesn't, he can't say he hasn't been warned.


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peterguk
post Mon, 30 Oct 2017 - 21:27
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Instead of passing on, mark envelope "Not Known - Return to Sender" and stick it back in letterbox.

If he does not reply, expect a summons anytime in next 4 ish months.

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post Mon, 30 Oct 2017 - 23:04
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Or write on the envelope "Return to sender, not at this address, try xxxxxxxxxxx" giving his current address, then the police can deal with him direct.


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Ariel
post Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 09:27
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Ex partner received two speeding tickets November 2014 so 6 points on licence. These will have expired last November.
However in September he received another speeding ticket which he did nothing about so has now gone to court! Again done nothing about so assume he will have another 6 points on licence?? He obviously doesn’t care but my question is what date will these be added to his licence, the offence date or court date? If it’s the offence date then the other 6 points were still live! So will he receive a totting ban?
Would like to know as he drives around with our young child and when I’ve tried to discuss whether he has sorted this he doesn’t want to know and judging by the post I still receive I am positive he hasn’t! I obviously don’t want he driving around without a licence!!
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post Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 09:35
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Impossible to say without knowing the speed, whether he named the driver initially and then didn't turn up at court and was found guilty in his absence, etc.

If it was a slower speed subsequent to naming the driver the court may have given him less than six points.

As an initial step he needs to check his driving licence online and go from there.

https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence

With young children if the police stop him and find out he is driving with no licence and/or insurance they will likely seize the vehicle with all the headache that creates.
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QUOTE (Ariel @ Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 09:27) *
However in September he received another speeding ticket which he did nothing about


This one? :

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=116661&hl=


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post Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 10:25
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If it was 'ignored' then 6 points is almost certain. It's the date of offence that matters so it seems he will have totted and would be banned for 6 months.

If he continues driving then it will be very serious indeed.

A s172 offence (for failing to furnish driver details) occurs around 1 month after the underlying offence - but this still appears to be within the 3 year period.


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post Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 11:54
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QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 09:35) *
With young children if the police stop him and find out he is driving with no licence and/or insurance they will likely seize the vehicle with all the headache that creates.

Not to mention the minor inconvenience of being arrested for driving while disqualified and the kids being taken to the police station as a place of safety.


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post Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 12:26
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QUOTE (southpaw82 @ Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 11:54) *
QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 09:35) *
With young children if the police stop him and find out he is driving with no licence and/or insurance they will likely seize the vehicle with all the headache that creates.

Not to mention the minor inconvenience of being arrested for driving while disqualified and the kids being taken to the police station as a place of safety.

True. I was hoping the OP would spend the two minutes checking the licence online before going into worst case scenarios.

Until then any advice is mainly guesswork.

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post Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 13:09
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QUOTE (southpaw82 @ Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 11:54) *
QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 09:35) *
With young children if the police stop him and find out he is driving with no licence and/or insurance they will likely seize the vehicle with all the headache that creates.

Not to mention the minor inconvenience of being arrested for driving while disqualified and the kids being taken to the police station as a place of safety.



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post Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 14:11
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QUOTE (baggins1234 @ Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 13:09) *
QUOTE (southpaw82 @ Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 11:54) *
QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 09:35) *
With young children if the police stop him and find out he is driving with no licence and/or insurance they will likely seize the vehicle with all the headache that creates.

Not to mention the minor inconvenience of being arrested for driving while disqualified and the kids being taken to the police station as a place of safety.



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Don’t be giving me your modern rubbish...


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Ariel
post Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 18:44
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Unfortunately I can’t check his licence as don’t have the required details! He has told me it’s nothing to do with me and he’s not worried as they don’t bother to chase these things up anyway!! He did some years ago put a foreign address. Down and a couple of years ago failed to send another back and neither of them ever came to anything so he is rather cocky about the whole thing. For someone that needs his licence for work I don’t understand how he can be so blazay about the situation! He deserves all he gets.
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peterguk
post Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 19:19
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Maybe you should consider stopping him from driving around with your child until he shows you he has a valid DL and insurance?

You can check his insurance at askmid.com. Only need reg. number.

Or maybe voice your concerns to local police station?


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post Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 19:29
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QUOTE (peterguk @ Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 19:19) *
You can check his insurance at askmid.com. Only need reg. number.


And to make a false declaration...


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post Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 21:04
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Well if the perverting the course of justice comes to light he won’t be driving your kids for a while.

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post Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 22:20
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 21:04) *
Well if the perverting the course of justice comes to light he won’t be driving your kids for a while.

Perhaps you would like to explain how ignoring court proceedings amounts to PCoJ? Or is it just a fun phrase to throw around?
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post Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 22:21
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QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 22:20) *
QUOTE (The Rookie @ Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 21:04) *
Well if the perverting the course of justice comes to light he won’t be driving your kids for a while.

Perhaps you would like to explain how ignoring court proceedings amounts to PCoJ? Or is it just a fun phrase to throw around?

I think Simon is referring to the giving foreign address claim.


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Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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post Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 22:25
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QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 22:20) *
QUOTE (The Rookie @ Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 21:04) *
Well if the perverting the course of justice comes to light he won’t be driving your kids for a while.

Perhaps you would like to explain how ignoring court proceedings amounts to PCoJ?


It’s not, and there’s even case law to that effect. However, it seems he ignored the s 172 rather than any court proceedings. That being said, providing false details is PCOJ, which you appear to have missed.

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Bearing in mind the above you might want to wind your neck in.


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post Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 22:25
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QUOTE (andy_foster @ Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 19:29) *
QUOTE (peterguk @ Sun, 11 Mar 2018 - 19:19) *
You can check his insurance at askmid.com. Only need reg. number.


And to make a false declaration...

Not if she asks for his permission first


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