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LPS EXCESS CHARGE NOTICE, PRIVATE PARKING FINE
sarahlhug82
post Thu, 7 May 2015 - 12:45
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Hi

I was hoping for some advice. I received an excess parking fine from a company called LPS on Monday 4th May. We were 19 minutes late back to the car on a trip to the Sand Dunes at Merthyr Mawr due to us having to change my young son's nappy before we left. When we got back to the car we found the ticket (we were one of many in the car park) and were shocked to see that for 19 minutes they were expecting an £85 fine or £50 if we pay within 14 days. This I feel is a very excessive amount of money for this error in judgement, money that we don't have to spare. I have taken some advice from friends, and all have said don't pay and ignore, however I am very unsure about doing this as there must be a way that they can force people to pay up or there would be no point issuing the tickets in the first place. The company is part of the BPS and nothing to do with the council or the police. We were late and we were at fault however £85/50 is a large amount of money to charge someone for a quiet carpark on a Bank Holiday Monday. The case can be appealed directly to them but this involves then disclosing personal details and I am sure will be rejected. Any advice as to what to do will be gratefully received. Many thanks!


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post Thu, 7 May 2015 - 12:55
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post up the document all pages redact personal information. Do not name the driver refer only to the keeper of the vehicle


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post Thu, 7 May 2015 - 13:28
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Trying to upload but it won't let me!
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post Thu, 7 May 2015 - 15:20
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London Parking Solutions are an IPC company and any appeal ill likely be rejected and their Independant Appeal Service is not much better.

Do not imply who was driving we were late and we found the ticket is not enough to identify the driver. refer to the driver in the third person only.
usually the advice is to wait for the posted notice to keeper, and appeal from that.




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post Thu, 7 May 2015 - 15:37
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QUOTE (Albert Ross @ Thu, 7 May 2015 - 15:20) *
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London Parking Solutions are an IPC company and any appeal ill likely be rejected and their Independant Appeal Service is not much better.

Do not imply who was driving we were late and we found the ticket is not enough to identify the driver. refer to the driver in the third person only.
usually the advice is to wait for the posted notice to keeper, and appeal from that.

There's also Llawnroc Parking Services (LPS) and Local Parking Security (LPS) - both BPA members. @OP - could you clarify which of the three already mentioned is the PPC chasing you?
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post Thu, 7 May 2015 - 16:06
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Thought an excess charge notice was one some councils use, the only recourse being magistrates court, as its a breach of the off street parking places order (or their variation of), not some private ticket.

We really need to see the ticket.
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post Thu, 7 May 2015 - 18:53
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It's Local Parking Security Ltd. I will upload now, I need to reduce the pixels on the picture as it's too large. Many thanks!
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post Thu, 7 May 2015 - 20:38
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I've been trying to add an attachment of the photo all night! Ive given up but the detail is below

Excess Charge Notice

Ref No
Vehicle Registration
Date of Issue
Time of Issue
Issued By
Location Code
Location
Vehicle Make
Colour of Vehicle

Issue Reason: 0003
Parking longer than period paid for

A parking charge of £85.00 is due within 28 days of the date of issue.

The reduced amount of £50.00 will be accepted if payment is received within 14 days of the date of this notice.

Failure to provide payment of the full amount within 28 days will result in further administrative costs.

Payment methods
Telephone: 08444740904
Use reference: REDACTED
Online Payment: www.LPSPAY.co.uk
By Post: Complete payment slip on the reverse of this notive and send with payment to the following address:
Local Parking Security Ltd
P.O. Box 6321
Warwick
CV34 9QB
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Albert Ross
post Thu, 7 May 2015 - 20:44
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there was a link to posting images in my earlier post (with erroneous assumptions)


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post Thu, 7 May 2015 - 20:57
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Thanks, should have paid more attention!
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post Thu, 7 May 2015 - 21:09
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This the place by any chance

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.482478,-3...1-1BxIw!2e0


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post Thu, 7 May 2015 - 21:16
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yes that's the one!
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post Thu, 7 May 2015 - 21:26
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QUOTE (sarahlhug82 @ Thu, 7 May 2015 - 22:16) *
yes that's the one!


Now the experts on PPC'S can have a look and see if they can find enough signage to form a contract


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post Fri, 8 May 2015 - 18:06
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thank you, any help appreciated!
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Albert Ross
post Fri, 8 May 2015 - 18:56
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Is there any appeal process.

Usual process is to ignore the windscreen ticket and wait for the Notice to keeper.
That will allow you to appeal as the keeper without identifying the driver.
If you appeal the ticket that you have then it would be reasonable to assume that the person appealing is the driver.
Once the driver is known then the Protections afforded in POFA are lost.
They [LPS] can not apply for the keeper details until after 28 days of placing the windscreen ticket but have until day 56 to get the notice to you (NTK)


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post Sat, 9 May 2015 - 05:31
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Find out who owns the car park too. They can cancel.

Is your baby less than 26 weeks? (Equality Act)

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sarahlhug82
post Tue, 12 May 2015 - 12:25
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Little confused as to what to do now... Do I appeal directly to them therefore disclosing personal details or do I wait for the letter to come through from them demanding the payment?
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post Tue, 12 May 2015 - 12:29
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If you are the registered keeper, wait.


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QUOTE (sarahlhug82 @ Tue, 12 May 2015 - 13:25) *
Little confused as to what to do now... Do I appeal directly to them therefore disclosing personal details or do I wait for the letter to come through from them demanding the payment?

Also, contact who owns the car park. They can cancel. Equalities Act *requirement* for a reasonable adjustment (such as more time) would also apply if your baby is under 26 weeks
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post Tue, 12 May 2015 - 20:19
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How do I find out who owns the car park? Will it be registered somewhere? Little boy is 1 so not a tiny baby.
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