so, I have a different opinion about lane discipline than someone else, I'd appreciate your thoughts.
imagine you're approaching this road layout from the yellow arrow, you want to get into the lane marked with yellow circle, what lane should you take at the arrow?
note: upper rainham road traffic is traffic light controlled so nothing coming from that way.
Either.
But if you subsequently plan to turn left then it would make sense to take the left side (and right for right).
Holding a poll is not necessarily going to get the right answer. Particularly if you confuse the issue by defying convention and numbering the lanes from right to left.
There appear to be no road markings saying which lane for which direction on the A125, so in theory, either. Given no more information, I would choose 2, as there's less risk of cutting anyone off while having to move left. But it would depend on things like traffic levels at the time, and the "typical" movement of traffic across that junction at whatever time of day (if a regular user of the junction).
I would take the left hand Lane #2
If you take Lane #1 you have to move over two lanes in a short distance
You also risk cutting up anyone in Lane #2 who continues round AND the traffic in Upper Rainham Road that wants to go right
2 would cause less need to cut-across traffic and is likely to reduce congestion and the risk of collision and upset.
I would not be surprised at all if some drivers preferred lane 1 and to cut-across the traffic needlessly because some drivers "just have to be on and in the right".
If your "lane discipline" makes you prefer lane 1 then you would probably be outside of a group of drivers that were termed careful and competent. Hopefully all drivers would choose lane 2 if they were familiar with the road.
Just looked and see it is in Essex...nobody is really going to care.
Purely depends on traffic.
1 gets you into the lane you want with least lane changes, would be my choice in light traffic.
2 is probably the more sensible initially but could leave you stuck in left lane when you want to be in right.
Probably depends on what you mean by 'should'. The left lane is clearly going to be the easiest and safest as it allows you to move over at the next junction with only one further lane change. But based on the road markings alone, I guess a masochist could technically chose to go from the right lane all the way across in heavy London traffic.
Given that London drivers seem to see it as a personal failure if they allow someone change into their lane, I'd do everything I could to avoid having to hack across multiple lanes at the last second like that.
Normally or in the past I would say this doesn't matter as traffic flowing at roughly the same speed allows for merging across lanes although one may have to speed up a bit or slow down to get across. But these days a lot of drivers are just much more aggressive or bloody minded and have abandoned give and take.
Like all such junctions only experience will show what is best to do if anything. I would certainly use both lanes usually. There are also problems caused by drivers rigidly using one lane causing showdowns and tailbacks while the other lane is empty.
I would use whatever lane is empty at the time, then choose the lane I actually want when there's a space. this is London/Essex, so "country" conventions are irrelevant. whatever lane seems to be moving quickest.
I generally base my decision on what isn't going to put me at fault if there's a crash and balance that against whatever is moving and whether I'm overtaking / finished overtaking / anything else that compels me to move left.
There are some "obvious" ones, ie. take NS in order that you are NS at the four lane thing and your OS takes the two OS but you can guarantee someone will balls that up so I wouldn't rely on it.
What would be especially annoying is that anyone NS (your 2) should really take NS when making the left as they're not overtaking anything but if you assumed that you're going to get crashed in to when they arbitrarily choose OS at the blue stripe thing for what really should amount to no reason if you're the one looking to pass.
I think it looks like it would make slightly more sense to say OS (your 1) but there are too many prerequisites to make that a good idea, most notably the assumption that you are going to exit on the right of the picture.
So therefore 2 and deal with getting over to the right for the dot later, and in the event that you have traffic there to merge in to there are fewer assumptions being made and you have time to conduct without pressuring either yourself or other motorists as you would at the split.
Although its in the south so obviously people are going to cut you up or block you because they're southerners.
So on balance I'd like to answer that I'd move to the north where we don't have silly junction like that or where we do people on the most part get on with it without crashing.
I don’t live in the south but the north.
The drivers are just as bad up here and there are plenty of silly junctions.
Mirror signal manoeuvre.
I'd be in 2 to head for the yellow dot.
If i were in lane 1 a car in lane 2 could be trying to double back OR take the right hand of the two lanes towards the yellow dot, either of which is inconvenient and risks 'conflict' so I'd stick with making life easy. That said being in lane 1 wouldn't be 'wrong'.
I’d let my driver worry about it.
Bet your driver is called Parker.
Depends what lanes the other lorries are in, ensure there is a lorry in each lane in busy traffic so there is no space for motorcycles to filter through, after all why should they get through quicker while you have to wait in traffic?
To make progress.
https://www.bmf.co.uk/news/show/10-tips-for-safe-motorcycle-filtering
If I was in an HGV, any f:)k?n@ lane I wanted. But seriously I would be in the lane you have marked as 2, simply because it offers a bigger radius, as i go to the right and if I then discover I need to go left towards yellow dot, its bonus, but even if i then need to go towards the right I am still in the outide lane. Therefore allowing cars to go faster
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